Oil & Fuel Filled with on road diesel - do i have to drain it?

LBrown59 · Jul 12, 2008

Texas Dodge said:
On road diesel and off road diesel, what is the difference?

It's the tax structure that different not the fuel.

Texas Dodge · Jul 12, 2008

LBrown59 said:
None except do you pay highway tax on it or do you not: : :

I just buy the diesel at the gas station and use it in my tractor.

Dargo · Jul 13, 2008

Sully2 said:
I do have the $$ but that isnt the reason.

Ah, I see. I guess that's why I watch my dollars closer. I give the government enough in my opinion. I only run off road dyed diesel in my off road equipment so I can save $10 or $15 each tank my tractor uses. I've never heard of AG fuel. I assume it's similar to #2 off road diesel, but I wouldn't know.

Sully2 · Jul 13, 2008

Dargo said:
Ah, I see. I guess that's why I watch my dollars closer. I give the government enough in my opinion. I only run off road dyed diesel in my off road equipment so I can save $10 or $15 each tank my tractor uses. I've never heard of AG fuel. I assume it's similar to #2 off road diesel, but I wouldn't know.

Here where I live..AG diesel is the same as #2 off road..is the same as #2 fuel oil...etc..etc...color and all.

I dont burn enough diesel fuel to even worry about taxes etc...and what it would cost me to get a tank...even with a hand pump..etc..isnt worth it ...not even close...PLUS..I know Im always getting fresh fuel when I buy it at the station.

Texas Dodge · Jul 13, 2008

Ductape said:
As everyone else has said..... no major difference between the two. A red dye is added to the offroad to show the authorities that the road use tax has not been paid on it. No problem using it in your tractor. No problem mixing the two either .

Now I see. We call that farm diesel down here.

Trigger · Jul 13, 2008

Ductape said:
In different areas, the sulfer content may be different. I'm told in my area there is no difference in sulfer content. Either way, you won't have any problems mixing..... or using the two. The lower sulfer content fuel is to meet current on road emissins standards. I feel the more sulfer the better, since it acts as a lubricant. Same goes for home heating oil...... no problems running that in your tractor either. Though there may be some formulation difference between the three...... all are fine to run your tractor on.

Some more info that may/may not make things more confusing. There is low sulfur and ultra low sulfur on road diesel, pump should be labeled. I am not sure if they went to ultra low on the offroad as there is not any emissions regs.
The sulfur itself is not a lubricant, but the process that removes the sulfur also removes some of the properties that increase lubricity. So ultra low is not a "slick" as plain low sulfur (again I think ultra low is only "on-road" diesel). As far as adverse effects in tractors I am not sure. I did add some Power Service grey bottle in my last tank of on road. Cant say I noticed a difference, but perhaps it increases lubricity. It does make my truck noticably quieter but not worth it normally IMO.

Hope I muddied the waters some more.

Wiki also has a good article on ultra low sulfur diesel...

C6rider · Jul 13, 2008

If you mix the 2 types are you only allowed to drive on the shoulder of the road?

Dargo · Jul 13, 2008

Trigger said:
Some more info that may/may not make things more confusing. There is low sulfur and ultra low sulfur on road diesel, pump should be labeled. I am not sure if they went to ultra low on the offroad as there is not any emissions regs.

My supplier told me that their #2 off road will soon be ULSD as well since that's all the refinery that supplies them will produce. According to my driver, the EPA is going after tractors as well. He reminded me that the EPA basically did away with 2 cycle engines due to pollution, which is true. Heck, even my new string trimmer is a 4 cycle as is my powered edger. Oh well, they seem to have similar power and I think they use slightly less fuel. Hmm, I wonder if chain saws are going 4 cycle as well?

LBrown59 · Jul 13, 2008

C6rider said:
If you mix the 2 types are you only allowed to drive on the shoulder of the road?

Naturally.

crd · Jul 13, 2008

And once again I learn something new from from TBN, this time about Power Service additive.

I've been adding the "white bottle" Power Service to my BX, and hadn't heard of Trigger's "grey bottle" formula. Looked it up and discovered that I've been using a winter formula year-round. Power Services' website says that's fine, but I think I'll check out the summer version next trip to the auto parts store.

While it is preferable to use Diesel Kleenｮ +Cetane Boostｮ (grey bottle) in non-winter months for maximum injector clean-up and a cetane boost of 6 numbers, Diesel Fuel Supplementｮ +Cetane Boostｮ (white bottle) can be used on a year-around basis. Although Diesel Fuel Supplementｮ +Cetane Boostｮ is an antigel, it will not harm your engine to use year-around.

Trigger said:
I did add some Power Service grey bottle in my last tank of on road. Cant say I noticed a difference, but perhaps it increases lubricity...