Fighting 'Solar Farm' Installation

[two_bit_score]

We as a nation need to develop and produce power at a cost that will allow heavy manufacturing to be redeveloped in this Country, without an economy based on manufacturing products a Nation can not prosper, the so called "service" industry does not produce anything to increase a countries gross national product numbers.

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[Hay Dude]

Why? There are more cost effective ways to produce clean energy that digging black rock from deep underground. And natural gas is one of the ways to do this. A natural gas plant is far more efficient and cheaper to operate cleanly than the coal train. That’s why my local utilities closed their coal plants and switched and the coal cars went to the scrapyard , replaced by other freight. Not only is gas cheaper, so are renewables. We did go to the moon, and we did find better ways of producing energy. And nuclear fusion is a technology that is coming. Regardless of what the future holds, the black rock is obsolete. No power companies are building new plants and old ones are closing annually. And yet our power use continues. Imagine that.

I’ve mentioned natural gas along with coal in dozens of posts, but you choose to keep putting words in my mouth I didn’t say.
Typical.
You may think black rock is obsolete, but China can’t get enough of it and they are running circles around us in manufacturing and cheap energy.

 

[TIMMYDUCK]

160 acre solar farm right past my fields .

( Top of the picture )

Hardly notice them anymore .


Excellent neighbors never a peep out of them .

 

[Oaktree]

China can’t get enough of it and they are running circles around us in manufacturing and cheap energy.

Air pollution too.

 

[Mtsoxfan]

You have to factor in two important things:
"$28k cost after credit."
That $28,000 would either be a loan which you pay interest on or cash which you lose investment interest on.
"Estimated solar savings over 25 yrs = $109K or $4360/yr." That's the most confusing since $4,360/year=$363.33/month. I've never had a $363/month electric bill in my life. I've never had a $200 electric bill. The highest we've ever had was a few months ago having six heaters, dehumidifiers and fans running 24/7 and my bill was $150 which my insurance company paid from a water leak. Our electric bill averages around $100/month. Even if it was $150/month that's $45,000 in 25 years. In 25 years I'll be 95.
$28,000 invested in the S&P 500 if it follows the last 25 years at 7.98% would be $190,690.12. And I wouldn't have unsightly panels, maintenance or damage. As it is now the power company is responsible for everything up to my meter base.
Living here 43 years our total loss of power has been a few days total, most of that loss was a major ice storm and we were in Florida and missed it. Ten years ago I bought a 9kW generator which has less than 3 hours of run time.

Not sure where you live, but that is not the prices for many others, myself included in the states of CT and VT. If we had those prices, I wouldn't consider solar. Heating a home with heat pumps, runs about $4 to $500 amonth during the cold ones...

 

[two_bit_score]

160 acre solar farm right past my fields .

( Top of the picture )

Hardly notice them anymore .


Excellent neighbors never a peep out of them .
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Nice picture of the dog? Yours? What breed?

 

[TN8Man]

When those two banks recently failed, those accounts were only insured to 250k per FDIC. But, the govt took care of all the funds. Which means they printed more money, which diluted your money. Like adding water to paint in Tom Sawyer, diluting for whitewash. One day they can come out and say your money is useless, as it collapses. But you can scream gold is worthless from every rooftop, and the price will go up.

The banking crisis is far from over and it will get much worse.

 

[TN8Man]

It CAN be turned around if we do what needs to be done. The train needs a new engineer and crew.

Agreed but there is a tipping point where the economy collapses and fundamental changes are made where we won't be in Kansas anymore. Look for the big push and implementation of CBDC. This is the point of no return.

 

[Hay Dude]

Air pollution too.

Thankfully the air pollution stays within their borders.

 

[TIMMYDUCK]

Nice picture of the dog? Yours? What breed?

Yes , that is my dog Tempo formerly known as KB’s Crazy Mama .

She was a Grade A+ racer at Mardi Gras in Cross Lanes , WV .

She is of course a greyhound.

You may see her races here :

Trackinfo - Greyhound racelines, breeding info

.just look to the right of the page and press play .

 

[jyoutz]

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Thankfully the air pollution stays within their borders.

Do you need a filtration mask to breathe outside like they use in China?

 

[TIMMYDUCK]

A better picture of the solar farm from this morning.

 

[Hay Dude]

Do you need a filtration mask to breathe outside like they use in China?

Clean coal? Clean NG?
Nukes?

HELLO????

 

[ROUSTABOUT]

Thankfully the air pollution stays within their borders.

Around here, lots of oil wells. When I was young, we could ride oil well roads all over. We could all go to a location, build a fire, visit. Now I know just one company drilled 613 more Wells. At times you could throw a rock from one rig to another. But a lot of them were from out of country. They didn't have to go by the same rules that Americans are bound to. Our guys are hamstrung by rules and foreigners drill like it's 1940. Oil companies do it because it's a lot cheaper. I remember a fellow near me had some vacuum trucks. Pumped off salt water and had disposal Wells he was supposed to go to and off load it. My brother and I were hunting along this creek, big enough you couldn't jump across it anywhere. I tasted the water, salty like ocean water. Went around to the next road over and he had an old location there behind a locked gate. He had a ditch dug through the woods to that creek. He was unloading the vacuum trucks straight into the creek. We talking a crew of men driving trucks around the clock. Some were tanker trailer trucks. I guess you can make more money if you don't have to drive 20 miles to a disposal well. The state controls disposal Wells. Fenced off and can only take so much at a certain rate. Always has a dinky chain and lock. Every truck driver has bolt cutters. It's a bad situation, I can go on,

 

[MossRoad]

Yes , that is my dog Tempo formerly known as KB’s Crazy Mama .

She was a Grade A+ racer at Mardi Gras in Cross Lanes , WV .

She is of course a greyhound.

You may see her races here :

Trackinfo - Greyhound racelines, breeding info

.just look to the right of the page and press play .

Did I read that correctly? Father's name was GIGAWATT and this is a thread about electricity?

 

[TIMMYDUCK]

Did I read that correctly? Father's name was GIGAWATT and this is a thread about electricity?

Yes you did .

Gigawatt is her papa.

 

[MossRoad]

Yes , that is my dog Tempo formerly known as KB’s Crazy Mama .

She was a Grade A+ racer at Mardi Gras in Cross Lanes , WV .

She is of course a greyhound.

You may see her races here :

Trackinfo - Greyhound racelines, breeding info

.just look to the right of the page and press play .

That 3rd race was impressive!

 

[MossRoad]

A better picture of the solar farm from this morning.View attachment 794894

Nice looking animal.


The panels remind me of the fields of row covers we see in our travels.



I just found 2 more solar farms on Google Earth that I drive by pretty often and never knew they were there. Pretty unobtrusive compared to wind farms.

 

[2manyrocks]

If solar panels were built like roofing panels and served both functions for residential homes, it wouldn't be obnoxious to me. But then there are those who hate metal roofing and think everything has to have asphalt shingles.

 

[walhondingMF]

I believe there are solar roofing options working their way into the market place, and I think at pretty reasonable rates. I am assuming we may see more of it in the next few years.