Ferguson Plow... Opinions

[scott_vt]

Afternoon Guys,
This past weekend I went to look at a 3 PT 2 BTM Ferguson plow. I pm-ed my buddy Bill aka FWJ to get his feelings on the plow ! I informed him that the asking price is $200 and that one of the points was broken. After I got over there to look at the plow, I realized that not only was the rear point was broke but the rear cutter wheel was also shot ! I know there are other members out there that have much more experience with this type of implement than myself, so feel free to add your commentary. As I informed Bill I would only be using this plow for a garden or food plot at some point in time. Please see attached photos !

BTW, sorry meant to say tail wheel is shot !

 

[scott_vt]

Hmmm,
I should use the search function more often ! It seems Dapper posted a plow that looks like what I looked at and states its a Dearborn !

 

[schmism]

ya im fairly shure mines a dearborn... paid $250 for mine. ive got a thread out there for mine

 

[deerhunterf350]

schmism,

Where is the Drawbar ?

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Hey Scotty!

Well, from the picture, it looks like a Dearborn plow to me too. No problem with that. In fact, points, albiet hard to find in that style, are EASIER to find for the Dearborn plows. Looks like the coulters were once equipped with jointers. Some of the hardware is still there. I'd remove all the extra parts. They'll just collect debris without the jointer shares. The tailwheel can probably be fixed with parts (or a complete tailwheel assembly) from a later model Ford plow. For MOST plowing conditions, you can get away with not even using a tailwheel. Rotate the offset drawbar so that it moves the tail end of the plow a bit towards the furrow wall, putting a little more pressure on the landslides, and that plow will probably track straight enough without a tailwheel.

I saw a Dearborn 2X12" plow in far WORSE condition than that sell for $420, 2 weeks prior. (P.T. Barnum was right )

Bill

 

[BobG_in_VA]

Scott, looks too much like a Dearborn 10-8 (assuming its a 12" model). Plow points/share can be had but are pricey. Cast iron will be about $65 each. If you want steel, you can pretty much pay for one what 2 cast will cost. Rear furrow wheels: Usually Dearborn had the scraper at the front of the wheel whereas Fergs (I believe) had the scraper at the rear of the wheel. Good luck with it! BobG in VA

 

[scott_vt]

Mornin Guys,
Thanks to all for your replies.

In answer to Deerhunter question, Schisms plow is missing the bar that goes from beam to beam for the lower arms on the 3 pt to hook up to. If you look at the pics I posted you will see what Im talking about.

Bill and Bob thanks for your comments, would either of you gentlemen care to point me in the right direction towards points or any other missing parts ? E-Bay ? Or possibly a tractor salvage yard ??? Thanks again guys !

 

[mikedeere]

Schmism I happen to have the draw bar for that plow. I live 30mi. west of St. Louis. PM me if you are interested. You can have it if you come and get it.

 

[scott_vt]

Schmism I happen to have the draw bar for that plow. I live 30mi. west of St. Louis. PM me if you are interested. You can have it if you come and get it.

Mornin Mike,
You wouldnt have any points by any chance would you ?

 

[Diamondpilot]

I just bought a used King Kutter 2 bottom plow for $150. It cant be more than 10 years old and still has the paint on it. I guess I got a good deal.

Chris

 

[scott_vt]

I just bought a used King Kutter 2 bottom plow for $150. It cant be more than 10 years old and still has the paint on it. I guess I got a good deal.

Chris

Mornin Chris,
Have you used it yet ? And if you have are you happy with the results ?

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Mornin' Scott!

I believe it was BobG that posted a link to a source for those points. SOMEONE on here did anyway. They're not the most common parts you'll ever go searching for, which seems odd to me. Lots of guys looking for them.

I try to stick with plows using modern "economy bottoms" with the shin seperate from the moldboard. Even those are getting hard to find parts for nowdays.

I MIGHT rebuild one more plow. I'd like to find a 3X14" or 3X12" #43 Massey Ferguson high clearance plow. No more plowing than I'll ever do, my #66 should last all of my days.

In time, as plows in GOOD condition get harder to find, I look for their value to climb more than any other old implement.

 

[scott_vt]

Mornin' Scott!

I believe it was BobG that posted a link to a source for those points. SOMEONE on here did anyway. They're not the most common parts you'll ever go searching for, which seems odd to me. Lots of guys looking for them.

Mornin Bill,
Thanks ! I will PM Bob when I get a chance !

 

[BobG_in_VA]

Scott, try this Implements forum (forum for Ford NSeries tractors). The place I got mine from was a New Holland dealer near Pittsburg--NOTE: All decent New Holland dealers can order you your points/shears, tail wheels, etc., the the dealer in Pitts. was by far the cheapest and shipped within a day, as they had the points in stock). Not sure if this is Kosher, but here's the link to the Implements forum....Implements Forum

Good luck! BobG in VA

 

[scott_vt]

Afternoon Bob,
Thankyou very much ! I will definitely give that a try and really appreciate all your help !!!

 

[schmism]

Schmism I happen to have the draw bar for that plow. I live 30mi. west of St. Louis. PM me if you are interested. You can have it if you come and get it.

ya id love it... mine came with a draw bar, but its the wrong size, its 1.75" in diam and the ubolt spaceing on the dearborn is 1.5" if i remember correctly...

currently i used my straight hole'd drawbar from TSC and used it passing 1 side of the U bolt through the hole in the draw bar. not perfect i know but it worked for me.... (sorta)

so ya id love the correct one.

shooting you a PM

 

[mikedeere]

schism I just went out and measured mine 1.75. are you sure that yours is 1.50? I`had two of them both were the same? Give me a call anyway if you want

 

[ericjeeper]

I was just at a yard sale about a mile from my house.. he had a one bottom plow laying there, I offered him five bucks less than his price tag. He said yes.. Then he said I have the second bottom off of it over in the garage and the other colter is at my other place..I said if you can get it all together I will give you the asking price of 15 bucks.. yeah some say I can find a bargain.. I am not sure who made it.. and I will not be picking it up for a few days..

 

[Diamondpilot]

Mornin Chris,
Have you used it yet ? And if you have are you happy with the results ?

I have nothing to compare it to but it did great. I plowed in a field with 1 1/2 foot tall grass and it ran right through it. I set it up according to the manual. I had it on the back of my Jinma 254 and I used 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive. I also took one plow off and trenched in some copper for my neighbors propane tank. All in all its a good unit. I am not a big fan of King Kutter stuff, I have a 5' finish mower that is junk, but the price on this plow was right and it was in good shape with the manual.

Chris

 

[scott_vt]

Mornin Guys,
Well finally stopped playin phone tag with the guy and got hooked up with him, made an offer of $150, he countered with $175 and we finally settled on $160 Its mine now, good bad or otherwise ! I did some pokin around on it, it does indeed have a Dearborn tag on it, I used some fine emory on the tag and I believe Im readin Model 10-8. Anybody have a clue on that ? I havent extracted the serial # yet but I will !

Also I checked the pin diameters for the lower arm hookups and Im getting .830- .840 approx. The standard pin should be 7/8" I believe, was that diameter smaller years ago or are they just worn from use and rust ?

Anyway heres a couple of pics of low budget farming at its best !