FarmTrac Troubles

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longtrman said:
Ol Blue,
You need to contact SESS, She needs consoling big time. The Federal trade commission said FARMTRAC, Escorts and the Indians did nothing wrong! Try to convince the "Not Even Zero" customers that they did nothing Wrong!! Senator Christopher "KIT" Bond's office has apparently washed their hands of the deal. Guess I'll have to find where the Democrat button on the voting machine is. I will post the contact information for Senator Christopher "Kit" Bond on this site as soon as I can. There may be a lot of "Not Even Zero" customers wanting to make a campaign contribution to Senator Christopher "Kit" Bond's next election!


bond.senate.gov/contact/contactme.cfm

Please tell them how pleased you are that they couldn't find wrong doing in the not even zero financing. Also tell them you have a campaign contribution scheme that might interest them based on something from Farmtrac: "Not even Zero Contribution". That they will understand!
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,102  
longtrman said:
Ol Blue
This sounds more like a horror movie where the monster gets you by the big toe and slowly drags you kicking and screaming through the knot hole in the log cabin wall.

It is a quote from the late Welsh poet Dylan Thomas -- a beligerant refusal to go quietly.

--b
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,103  
longtrman said:
... tell them you have a campaign contribution scheme
Think before you speak. It's illegal to talk about campaign contributions and ask for government action to benefit you personally, in the same conversation.
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,104  
California said:
Think before you speak. It's illegal to talk about campaign contributions and ask for government action to benefit you personally, in the same conversation.
I wrote no LTZ contracts and purchased no LTZ tractors. Sorry my interest is in helping those that did. Not myself.
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,105  
OK Escorts and Textron, in regards to the LTZ customers. Know one is stopping you from making good on your contracts! Everyone wants good press. Well then earn it. Yes it is just that simple.
Case (an unpaid LTZ customer)

PS The press could still get much worse....much, much worse.
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,106  
case1570 said:
OK Escorts and Textron, in regards to the LTZ customers. Know one is stopping you from making good on your contracts! Everyone wants good press. Well then earn it. Yes it is just that simple.
Case (an unpaid LTZ customer)

PS The press could still get much worse....much, much worse.
Case you are hitting on all 6 now, you got that one right. Textron and Escorts remind me of a couple of stubborn old mules. now you younger folks may not know what I'm talking about, but the older heads will get it,I've followed the south end of a northbound mule more times than I care to remember. Now mules were useful creatures IF you could get their attention on the job at hand, but every now and then in order to get that attention, you had to properly apply a singletree to that area directly between their eyes.Well, that singletree for us is the news media,let us digilently apply it to these muleheaded adversaries and see if it still works.------Taxpayer
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,107  
case1570 said:
OK Escorts and Textron, in regards to the LTZ customers. Know one is stopping you from making good on your contracts! Everyone wants good press. Well then earn it. Yes it is just that simple.
Case (an unpaid LTZ customer)

PS The press could still get much worse....much, much worse.

Case,

Your post is a bullseye!

I can't imagine how the three entities believe they're worthy of anything but being piled onto in the media. Their *actions* to screw retailers warrant every scathing remark they receive -- and then some.

And yes... it could get worse.
Actions are being taken to make that happen.

--b
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,108  
taxpayer said:
Textron and Escorts remind me of a couple of stubborn old mules.
... in order to get that attention, you had to properly apply a singletree to that area directly between their eyes.Well, that singletree for us is the news media,let us digilently apply it to these muleheaded adversaries and see if it still works. ---Taxpayer

Stiff actions needed for a stiff situation, eh Taxpayer? Agreed.

Stiff action is the only thing these folks will respond to. Textron, Escorts and FNA have demonstrated that civility does not do anything but continue to get retailers abused.

C'mon pacifists and fence sitters:
- contact SESS and get listed on the dealer list
- share your information with us on the TBN.com (here!)
- join the "dealer only" site (retailers only qualify)
- talk to us about more details on how to attract media and legislative attention to this situation

Pacifists and fence sitters...
It's time to act!
Hit those corporate mules between the eyes with your actions -- now!

--b
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,110  
If only the national press would take the beginings of this and run with it. If the press would use their talents the bottome of this black hole would be lit like a Christmas Tree. At least it is a start of public exposure. Thanks SESS
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,111  
SESS said:

I have conflicting thoughts about this segment.

STRENGTHS:
- the situation made it to television... Gotta start somewhere!
- shows that people are pi**ed about NEZ
- shows that waranty/parts avail issues exists
- it will once again make a point to TFC: this is why deeper discounts are needed!

DEFICIENCIES:
- a toothless portrayal of a very serious situation
- improper portrayal of Farmtrac units: they are very good quality -- especially for the money...*far* from being "junk"!
- excessive attribution legislators/legislative process; many who have ways *not* to act on the situation to date... and so far is comparatively bogged down
- lack of "no comment" from the gutless, such as FNA execs, TFC

Speaking of timid, errrrr Politically Correct... the news clip didn't even give the Reciever's name. My editor would have my nuts if I didn't include JAMES C. MARROW's name plus age, and/or city of residence.

Reminded me of a statement my father once made:
"It's like soup maker calling it chicken soup... 'Well, the chicken WALKED through it.'"

And... nothing like slicing every second of Joel Thomas of Oakboro, N.C. from the segment -- another PC "vanillia-izing" move. Thomas is awesome! He has serious 'nads and unwavering confidence. I'm sure the news editor broke out in a sweat when he saw footage of Thomas telling it like it is!

[Please remember Beau Minnick is simply the messenger who compiles/assembles information the best way he could -- and did a respectable job. Minnick does not have editorial input or production authority. Others should be attributed to dilluting the piece and airtime delays.]

In the aftermath... Chalk it up as a minor victory -- and enough of a slight to stay hungry!

A situation where workers, customers and retailers have been bilked for MILLIONS is nothing less than national news. Don't settle for anything less -- persist!

--blueliner
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,113  
redneckford said:
Do you know how to make shark soup? Is it like chicken soup or more like soup? :)

RNFord,

If a few things go right, sharkie's machine will have put more than their little toes-ies in the soup -- chunks of dorsal fin will be included. In fact, many would be thrilled if it turned into more of a "Jaws" stew! : p

--blueliner
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,114  
Who were the "partners" involved wih Farmtrac North America? Who was "backing" them if the company was broke? Why did they keep lending money to Farmtrac if the lenders were looking at the balance sheet? Was the parent company in India 100% owner or did they have partners here in America? What is "BEAVER CREEK HOLDINGS,LLC "and what relationship do they have with Farmtrac, NA?
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,115  
OLE BLUE BETTER GET YOUR WIKIPIDIA:) OUT OF THE BOX!!!!!
SHARK SOAP====A soap opera is an ongoing, episodic work of 擢iction , usually broadcast on TV or Radio or internet. Programs described as soap operas have existed as an 兎ntertainment long enough for audiences to recognize them simply by the term soap. The name soap opera stems from the original dramatic Serials broadcast on the internet that had tractor manufacturers such as LongTrac, FarmTrac, and Textron as the show's sponsors????? These early internet serials were broadcast in weeknight slots when mostly tractor buyers would be available to listen; thus the shows were aimed at and consumed by a predominantly weekend farmer audience that believed all the information the LIE--fomercial oops!!! SOAP OPERA delivered--- less than zero financing, warranty for weeks oops!!! They thought that was years----didn稚 read the FINE print---- and parts to fix their tractors over their life time. (No one thought the meaning of life time was less than 6 weeks) Stay tune as the Beaver Creek turns!!!!!
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,116  
redneckford said:
OLE BLUE BETTER GET YOUR WIKIPIDIA:) OUT OF THE BOX!!!!!
SHARK SOAP====A soap opera is an ongoing, episodic work of 擢iction , usually broadcast on TV or Radio or internet... that had tractor manufacturers such as LongTrac, FarmTrac, and Textron as the show's sponsors... aimed at and consumed by a predominantly weekend farmer audience that believed all the information the LIE-fomercial [Oops!] SOAP OPERA delivered -- less than zero financing, warranty for weeks oops!!! They thought that was years----didn't read the FINE print---- and parts to fix their tractors over their life time. (No one thought the meaning of life time was less than 6 weeks) Stay tuned as the Beaver Creek turns!!!!!

RNFord,

Oh what a difference a vowel can make.
"As The Farmtrac Turns"... got it.

Wonder who WRAL's Tuesday PM blurb was sponsored by?

Wonder if we'll ever have a cameo appearance from the amazing vanishing CFO? [The one with 23 large lumps in his matress.]

--b
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,117  
tommybr said:
Who were the "partners" involved wih Farmtrac North America? Who was "backing" them if the company was broke? Why did they keep lending money to Farmtrac if the lenders were looking at the balance sheet? Was the parent company in India 100% owner or did they have partners here in America? What is "BEAVER CREEK HOLDINGS,LLC "and what relationship do they have with Farmtrac, NA?

I have been known to ask questions that I already know the answer to.........just to see what someone will say.
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,118  
tommybr said:
I have been known to ask questions that I already know the answer to.........just to see what someone will say.

TBr.,

In education, that's called "checking for accuracy" and "quality assurance" in the business world.

There's not a d**n thing the matter with checking.

"Measure twice, cut once."

--b
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,119  
I can't get into the dealors only website. Everytime i try i get a virus that shuts my computor down. Anybody else having this problem? Is Textron behind it?
 
/ FarmTrac Troubles #1,120  
hurliman said:
I can't get into the dealors only website. Everytime i try i get a virus that shuts my computor down. Anybody else having this problem? Is Textron behind it?
Same problem here,I don't know whats going on.------Taxpayer
 

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