Oil & Fuel "Enviro-Flo" Diesel Cans

[kb2520]

Hello all, brand new to the forum and was wondering if I could pick your all's brains. I have a brand new JD 2520 (haven't even had time to post pictures yet!) and need to find a functional diesel can to store diesel in for her. My dad has a couple of older cans that don't have the government's "Enviro Flow" valve on them. Been just taking his diesel, putting it in my tractor, and then re-filling his can because I'm not a fan of the new valves. I have a one gallon enviro flow for my Stihl weedeater, and even with that small of a can I always manage to spill more than I do with the traditional spouts.

Here is a link to one at Tractor Supply, and the review there from another customer is exactly how I feel. I don't want to be spilling diesel all over the hood of my tractor, floor of my barn, driveway, yard, etc. Does anyone know of a "new" can that is functional and practical? Or do I just need to hit the yard sales and flea markets?

Blitz 5 gal. Enviro-Flo PLUS Diesel Can with Flexible Spout - 3950880 | Tractor Supply Company

Thanks for your help!

 

[lockhaven]

first off welcome to the group. I have a Kioti and its fuel lid is on top so maybe this will not help much. I got a $0.79 funnel from walmart nice big end on it and that keeps the diesel off my tractor.

 

[AVIVIII]

I DESPISE the new fuel cans. I'm with you, I spill more using the stupid safety features than I do with a good old can.

I have two OLD galv. Eagle gans that I guard with my life and even a couple old plastic ones that were pretty good.

I have a Fuel Caddy for all the gasoline yard equipment and love it. They make a 25 gallon Diesel version that I was thinking about getting, but I am only 8/10ths of a mile from the filling station, so I think I'll just be registering the tractor and driving up there and keep a 5 gallon can for back-up...

 

[tomd999]

Hiya,

I gave up on cans years ago for Diesel. I have a 55 gal drum strapped to a pallet with wheels and a hand drum pump. I just pull the tractor into the barn, wheel the drum over to it, stick the hose in and pump. No mess and it's a lot easier than holding a 20 Lb can over your hood. I also buy off road Diesel just because I hate paying taxes for no reason.

You could do the same with a grease lug or even a 5 gal pail with a pump. You could also do what my buddy does, get one of the 15 Gal transfer tanks with the hose from TSC. He puts it on a pallet to raise it up higher than the hood and it flows pretty good.

Cost. The 55Gal drum was a freebee from the quick oil change place in town, the pallet was a freebie, the pump was $20, hose $5 and the wheels were $5 ea from the hardware store in town. Total cost $45

Tom

 

[JD755]

I have two OLD galv. Eagle gans that I guard with my life and even a couple old plastic ones that were pretty good.

Just make sure you don't store diesel fuel in galvanized containers. I also guard all my pre-government mandate fuel cans. I don't have any of the new ones.

 

[greg_g]

I've got back problems, which makes lifting 5-6 gallons of diesel that high quite problematic for me. So I bought an inexpensive 12v in-line fuel pump from NAPA and added fuel line to both sides. One line goes into the diesel can on the ground, the other goes into the tractor tank. The pump gets connected to 12v on the tractor. If you have a 12v receptacle, that makes it much simpler. Otherwise just put a couple alligator clips on the wires and clamp them to the battery posts.

If you don't want to get that fancy, I've got an old fashioned steel jerry can (Jeep style) with two flex spouts (original and spare) available - if you're interested. I've had it since the 80s, so it's clearly not one of the newer government-mandated versions.

//greg//

 

[LBrown59]

1*I DESPISE the new fuel cans.
2*I have two OLD galv. Eagle gans that I guard with my life and even a couple old plastic ones that were pretty good.
3*I have a Fuel Caddy for all the gasoline yard equipment and love it.
4*They make a 25 gallon Diesel version that I was thinking about getting, but I am only 8/10ths of a mile from the filling station, so I think I'll just be registering the tractor and driving up there and keep a 5 gallon can for back-up...

1*So don't I.
2*I hope you aren't storing diesel in them .
The GALV will flake off into the diesel .
3*

I built this much better rig with more features and funtions for less than a Fuel Caddy cost.
A fuel caddy is really just for transferring fuel and is not really intended for fuel storage.
4*Get a better set up by building your own rig.

Here is mine.

Hiya,

5*I gave up on cans years ago for Diesel.
6*I have a 55 gal drum strapped to a pallet with wheels and a hand drum pump.
7*I just pull the tractor into the barn, wheel the drum over to it, stick the hose in and pump.
8*I also buy off road Diesel just because I hate paying taxes for no reason.
9*You could also do what my buddy does, get one of the 15 Gal transfer tanks with the hose from TSC.
10*He puts it on a pallet to raise it up higher than the hood and it flows pretty good.

5*So did I.
6*I just pull my tractor up to the fuel insted of messing with trying to take move or lug the fuel to the tractor.
7*No wheeling a drum for me.
8*So do I.
9*Or rig up his own out fit and;
10*forget the pallet and digging out the tractor and forks .

 

[kb2520]

I got a $0.79 funnel from walmart nice big end on it and that keeps the diesel off my tractor.

Sounds simple enough for now! Thanks everyone for your replies. Sounds like there are some pretty ingenious rigs out there.

 

[CompactTractorFan]

I must say...The old "safety valves" were a lot worse then the newer "safety valves" (like the one in the picture at TSC)...

 

[KennedyDiesel]

I have had very good luck with the No-spill cans for my gasoline needs. Personally, I think if the No Spill had a second fill cap they'd be about perfect. About the only time I have issues is re-seating the spout cap once in a while.


I have a 575 gallon tank with electric pump to deliver my diesel fuel. This allows me to properly additize/treat my fuel in bulk and also I double filter it before it hits the tank. Cans are notorious for collecting debris...

 

[jcummins]

I've got back problems, which makes lifting 5-6 gallons of diesel that high quite problematic for me. So I bought an inexpensive 12v in-line fuel pump from NAPA and added fuel line to both sides. One line goes into the diesel can on the ground, the other goes into the tractor tank. The pump gets connected to 12v on the tractor. If you have a 12v receptacle, that makes it much simpler. Otherwise just put a couple alligator clips on the wires and clamp them to the battery posts.

If you don't want to get that fancy, I've got an old fashioned steel jerry can (Jeep style) with two flex spouts (original and spare) available - if you're interested. I've had it since the 80s, so it's clearly not one of the newer government-mandated versions.

//greg//

Have diesel truck...I use one of those drill pumps, and transfer fuel from my aux tank to my diesel mower. I use no diesel cans.

 

[johnrex62]

I have to admit, for my L3700 the new enviro cans work great. I set them up on top of the tractor and insert the spigot into the fill opening before releasing the valve. No drips or spills on the outside of the tractor.

Not so great using them for the lawn mower or other small tanks where I have to hold them up and manipulate the valve lock.

 

[paul314159]

I use one of these Eagle Type I cans. It works great for my BX. The grab handle on the side of the seat makes a perfect place to rest the can on when filling.

Paul

 

[CompactTractorFan]

The grab handle on the side of the seat makes a perfect place to rest the can on when filling.

Yep, that makes a great "can rest"...:thumbsup:

 

[USNative]

I have 2 of the new cans but I still like my older one with the small vent tab and flexible spout to be much better. A lot steadier flow of fuel to the tank and less mess. I always use a funnel on my tractor when fueling it so I get very little if any on it. I always keep a couple paper towels close by to lay on a spill and quickly adsorb it should I have an accident.

 

[Chilly807]

If you're handy with tools, this is fairly easy to build. You set the full fuel container on the hood (in the case of my L3400) and remove the cap. Stick the plain end in the can, the end with the valve in the tank opening, close the valve and pump the primer bulb a few times.

Once the bulb has fuel at that point, open the valve and wander off to do whatever else you have to do.

As long as there's room in the tank for the fuel in the can, it'll siphon happily by itself til the can is empty. If it won't all fit, just close the valve to stop the fuel flow.

I built this after nearly falling off the front wheel a few times with wet slippery boots on, trying to balance a 5 gallon can full of diesel and not spill any.

Sean

 

[JD755]

With my old style manual vent cans I hover my thumb over the vent as I pour. When the tank is nearly full I put that thumb down on the vent. The fuel flow immediately shuts down to a drip and nothing ever gets spilled as I move it away. While the cans are heavy when full, I am fortunate that the 755 fuel tank location in front of the radiator places it low enough I can stand flat footed on the ground while pouring.

 

[Hughman]

I use one of these siphon hoses Amazon.com: SUPER SIPHON Super Siphon 00101: Sports & Outdoors

There is a marble in the metal end on the the hose the you drop into the gerry can a couple times to start the flow. You can transfer 5gal in about a minute without spilling a drop.

 

[Chooglin]

I bought one of the "Enviro Flo" cans and I hated it.
So I removed the valve and spring from the spout and put the spring
on the bottom side of the valve (this will always hold the valve open) and re-assembled it.I can now pour, without haveing to hold the valve open.
The vent is still a PITA (pours to slow) but at least I solved 1 problem with these cans.
when I am transporting fuel,I use one of the spouts that has not been tampeerd with.

I also noticed with these cans,there is a good amount of pressure that builds up in them ,while sitting.
with the valve always closed on them,there is no way for the pressure to reliese itself.

 

[Petroman1]

Hello all, brand new to the forum and was wondering if I could pick your all's brains. I have a brand new JD 2520 (haven't even had time to post pictures yet!) and need to find a functional diesel can to store diesel in for her. My dad has a couple of older cans that don't have the government's "Enviro Flow" valve on them. Been just taking his diesel, putting it in my tractor, and then re-filling his can because I'm not a fan of the new valves. I have a one gallon enviro flow for my Stihl weedeater, and even with that small of a can I always manage to spill more than I do with the traditional spouts.

Here is a link to one at Tractor Supply, and the review there from another customer is exactly how I feel. I don't want to be spilling diesel all over the hood of my tractor, floor of my barn, driveway, yard, etc. Does anyone know of a "new" can that is functional and practical? Or do I just need to hit the yard sales and flea markets?

Blitz 5 gal. Enviro-Flo PLUS Diesel Can with Flexible Spout - 3950880 | Tractor Supply Company

Thanks for your help!

Here is what I use.