Electronic Ignition for Gasoline tractors ( Pertronix )

[can do]

Electronic ignition for your gasoline engines! Where to get them best price & service CBS Performance www.cbsperformance.com This is a easy conversion & you use the stock distributor,cap & rotor set your timing once & forget it & plugs last longer .

 

[orezok]

I put one on a cars years ago and it performed as advertised.

 

[can do]

I put one on a cars years ago and it performed as advertised.

I put one on a cars years ago and it performed as advertised.

hey orezok ! I have them in 3 classic automobiles & I put in a 1977 Bayliner with 4 cylinder Volvo / Penta outdrive! Talk about it working in extreme conditions. & not one failure on these apps. Anyhow this is for the Ford Vintage tractor owners who are tired of points & want to upgrade to electronic Ignition to make there tractors more efficient & reliable ( Pertronix )

 

[RickB]

I'm not an advocate of EI on 6 volt systems. The voltage sensitivity of the pickups coupled with potential system voltage drop while cranking add up to a vulnerability to no-starts. Convert your 6v system to 12v negative ground, then add EI.
Pertronix offers stellar tech support and customer service so where you buy Pertronix EI kits is fairly irrelevant.

 

[can do]

I'm not an advocate of EI on 6 volt systems. The voltage sensitivity of the pickups coupled with potential system voltage drop while cranking add up to a vulnerability to no-starts. Convert your 6v system to 12v negative ground, then add EI.
Pertronix offers stellar tech support and customer service so where you buy Pertronix EI kits is fairly irrelevant.

Hey RickB ! Very good point but this will work with a 6 volt! But a conversion to a 12 volt is preferable & this is recommended for working tractors that are used year round for ignition reliability & without ever having to use points again & the price can't be beat by CBS performance they're one of the leading wholesalers of Pertronix & have been for 25 years & don't forget free shipping ,So it is relevant to whom you buy it from & this is not something you have to have but it is a great alternative to points IMHO.

 

[RickB]

Hey RickB ! Very good point but this will work with a 6 volt! But a conversion to a 12 volt is preferable & this is recommended for working tractors that are used year round for ignition reliability & without ever having to use points again & the price can't be beat by CBS performance they're one of the leading wholesalers of Pertronix & have been for 25 years & don't forget free shipping ,So it is relevant to whom you buy it from & this is not something you have to have but it is a great alternative to points IMHO.

EI works more reliably on 12v systems. Fact. Not because of the EI kit itself but the operating characteristics of some 6v systems make the use of EI less than a sure thing, especially with worn starters and ancient battery cables that lead to high current draw and voltage drop. Pertronix 6 volt EI WILL NOT WORK CONSISTENTLY BELOW 5.2 volts.
I have sold Pertronix EI kits through my work for years and installed my first in about 1995.

 

[can do]

EI works more reliably on 12v systems. Fact. Not because of the EI kit itself but the operating characteristics of some 6v systems make the use of EI less than a sure thing, especially with worn starters and ancient battery cables that lead to high current draw and voltage drop. Pertronix 6 volt EI WILL NOT WORK CONSISTENTLY BELOW 5.2 volts.
I have sold Pertronix EI kits through my work for years and installed my first in about 1995.

I did state that a 12 volt conversion is preferable & that it is a good point on the 6 volt & I would hope anybody that uses a vintage tractor would have everything up to par if they where using it on a regular bases for reliable performance & your point on a 6 volt is well taken!

 

[RickB]

Yeah, that's wishful thinking. EI is too often used as a universal BandAid, which it is not.

 

[can do]

Yeah, that's wishful thinking. EI is too often used as a universal BandAid, which it is not.

And your point is??????????

 

[John0829]

His point is to many times EI is put on to cover up other issues with a worn engine. I like EI and think it has its place but I will not have it on a tractor of mine. I have had conversations with to many folks that have converted from points to EI and have been left with a sitting tractor when the EI failed. One man I spoke with last year was installing his 4th after the 3rd one had failed on a machine that he installed new wiring and made a good clean install, yet they still failed.

Anyone who can read and understand the wear on a set of points can have a very reliable ignition system. A system that if something should go wrong in the field that can generally be fixed good enough to get back to the barn with a simple screwdriver instead of being stuck in the field with a burned out part. The art of setting points ignition systems is a lost skill like so many other things now days, done right points will run for years without issue. Plus I can keep a spare set on hand and/or replace several sets of $10 points for the cost of one failed EI.

 

[Sonny580]

Had 2 tractors that ended up in my herd,---- neither ran, problem???? that electronic crap was junk! --Put both of them back to good old stock points and never looked back! That electronic crap seeeemes to work on cars because that is what is is designed for ---just dont work on ALL tractors! Too expensive and troublesome for me to have around!

 

[can do]

His point is to many times EI is put on to cover up other issues with a worn engine. I like EI and think it has its place but I will not have it on a tractor of mine. I have had conversations with to many folks that have converted from points to EI and have been left with a sitting tractor when the EI failed. One man I spoke with last year was installing his 4th after the 3rd one had failed on a machine that he installed new wiring and made a good clean install, yet they still failed.

Anyone who can read and understand the wear on a set of points can have a very reliable ignition system. A system that if something should go wrong in the field that can generally be fixed good enough to get back to the barn with a simple screwdriver instead of being stuck in the field with a burned out part. The art of setting points ignition systems is a lost skill like so many other things now days, done right points will run for years without issue. Plus I can keep a spare set on hand and/or replace several sets of $10 points for the cost of one failed EI.

Hey John0829 ! That's to bad for your friend hopefully he has gotten his money back, As they do offer a 30 month guarantee.I run Pertronix in 3 classic automobiles ,1 of my tractors & I've installed them on a boat with a I/O I did sell the boat & the owner is a friend of mine! Not 1 failure on these apps. & my friend who bought the boat installed 1 on his Oliver 10 years ago no failures! & I've set more points than I care to remember or want to & if points where so great why is every engine manufacture no longer using them including small engines ! Also Pertronix states clearly to keep your points parts in case the Pertronix does not work with your ignition system & I will agree with You & RickB it shouldn't be used on failing or poorly maintained piece of equipment ! As the saying goes you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig & I agree again with You & RickB this should not be used as a band aid.& this is a alternative to those who want E-I & not points.

 

[can do]

Had 2 tractors that ended up in my herd,---- neither ran, problem???? that electronic crap was junk! --Put both of them back to good old stock points and never looked back! That electronic crap seeeemes to work on cars because that is what is is designed for ---just dont work on ALL tractors! Too expensive and troublesome for me to have around!

Hey good for You! But You are wrong on the apps. & to make that statement is truly bias & misinformed.

 

[pmsmechanic]

The only application where I've seen a Pertronix completly fail is on a pumping unit. They run 24/7 in the summer in an irrigation application and after several years one failed. I've also had to repair a Pertronix where all the magnets fell out. I found all of them inside the distributer and scotch tape held them back in place. Other than thise two instances they have been a very reliable conversion. In my less than humble opinion that sure beats setting points on a regular basis.