buckeyefarmer
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Been to Branson once, liked it.
Duck boat tragedy "storm came out of nowhere" BS
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I don't know... when we go through the Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge area, we tend to go off-season. Fewer shops are open, the ones that are tend to be the people that live there. They are truly friendly. I think besides your money, they like to meet people from all over the U.S. and the world.
When I worked in I.T. I always struck up a conversation with people at tech support all over the world. Kinda interesting to hear what life is like somewhere else.
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Things are the SAME everywhere now. Home Depot, Payless Shoes and Mac Donalds.
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That's like the coast up and down Oregon and Washington. Summertime lots of tourist, off season is a great time to visit, the further south you go, the more you find the type of California tourist that give Californians a bad rap. Women was arguing with owner of restaurant, that she should get the lunch special, two hours after lunch was over, claimed to be a "local". I noticed the car she had arrived in had California plates. Not for sure it was her's but...
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Kohl's and Petsmart, too.
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Grew up in Monroe (The Poconos), used to be somewhat of a tourist trap via a lot of honeymoon resorts. Now as far as I am concerned it's just overloaded with people wanting out of NJ and NY. Worked in Allentown for 25 years, lived there only five though. Lived near Tamaqua for ten then moved to KY.
Anyway, as far as the duckboat business, I agree, they should not have gone out. I went out on a whale watch once when the water was so rough, the company almost called off the trip. I kept my life jacket on the whole time. Some did, some did not. Water was rough, saw lot's of whales, did not get sick (for once). Big difference though between a WWII troop carrier and a 110 foot boat made the job.
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Ta Mah Quah NOT Tam Ah Quah
When I first got to this part of NC, I always pronounced Moganton NC as "Morgan Town" because I use to live in a small town off 68 by Morgantown WV. Now, years later, when I talk to my buddies in WV, I pronounce Morgantown WV as "Morgan Ton" LOL
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I saw that.
My line of thinking is it's all on the captain, but I could be wrong. The timefram however leads me to believe he should of known a bad storm was coming as well as the white swells forming on the lake 5 minutes after going out.
The question then becomes what what the company's procedures when bad weather was coming?
My added line of thinking is that the company can't blame it all on the captain.
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The operator's liability underwriter is likely to claim "act of god"...
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That's a good get out of jail card for a written warranty, but when it comes to liability and insurance issues when dealing with a business that is dependent on the weather to generate income, I don't think an "act of God" will hold water.
Now, if a tornado would of happened 10 miles away from the boat, with the boat sailing in clear skies and that tornado picked up a truck and sent it right dab on top of the boat and sank it, THEN you might be able to stand a chance hiding behind God.
When I worked for some commercial rafting companies in West Virginia and New York, there was actually a water level that was too high to run a paid commercial rafting trip on. That said, if the trip was cancelled due to high water, we would still kayak it "on our own" because we weren't paying anyone to take us down the river and we assumed all liability.
The people on this boat were paid customers. They have a safe assumption that the company they are paying knows when it's safe to go out and when it's determined not to be safe to go out due to the weather conditions.
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On a sidenote, one piece of information I did come across this morning was the apparently the operator of the "boat" had changed their routine where they do the water portion of the tour first before the land tour.
Recording shows crew told to take water tour first | Local News | joplinglobe.com
If this is the case, it does lead you to believe that the operator of the "boat" was aware of potentially bad weather and was trying to beat the storm by hitting the water first.
Recording shows crew told to take water tour first | Local News | joplinglobe.com
If this is the case, it does lead you to believe that the operator of the "boat" was aware of potentially bad weather and was trying to beat the storm by hitting the water first.
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Well, lets see now. Branson. I live here. Outside of the town just a bit. Yep, just a big tourist town. Hillbilly with his hand out I say. The reason I moved here is I got laid off of a good job in Springfield, Mo, (they closed the place) and found another with the same company in Harrison Ar. The wife still had a good job in Springfield. I asked the employer how far I could live away from Harrison and they said Branson. Well since Branson is halfway between Harrison (my job) and Springfield (her job) That is where we moved. My company paid for the move, so I couldn't beat that.
During the tourist season, you just learn to stay off of certain roads (mainly 76 country music boulevard) And you will do fine traffic wise. It is all good. I haven't been to a "show" in years, and haven't been to very many of them. I haven't been to "steal your dollar city" (Silver Dollar City) in decades. I just don't have that kind of money to burn. But hey the Branson area is kind of a beautiful place to live. Really pretty in the fall. Come on down. Us Hillbilly's need your money !
Very maturely stated James. Some of the comments above lack that maturity.
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Very maturely stated James. Some of the comments above lack that maturity.
I've got to ask, what comments lack "maturity"?
Long story short, it was a F up and someone is going to pay.
No way to make it look at better with "mature" comments IMO,
cqaigy2
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Possibly the comments about the surrounding area?
Sigarms
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What comments? You can find a two bit redneck trailer park anywhere in the United States.
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According to this the original designed Duck Boats can handle rough weather.
DUKW - Wikipedia
The Ducks in use in MO have the exhaust at the front of the boat. This design floods and stalls the engine by water ingestion down the exhaust. A design flaw pointed out to the Operator of the Duck Boats. A warning he choose to ignore. Inspector warned duck boat company of design flaws last year | The Kansas City Star
DUKW - Wikipedia
The Ducks in use in MO have the exhaust at the front of the boat. This design floods and stalls the engine by water ingestion down the exhaust. A design flaw pointed out to the Operator of the Duck Boats. A warning he choose to ignore. Inspector warned duck boat company of design flaws last year | The Kansas City Star
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