Dog Bite, New Problems

[atsah]

Walking my shepherd a few months back up the road about half a mile from my house, (I carry pretty much everywhere), down the other side of the road walks a pit bull all by himself, he passed and I kept my eye on him, my shepherd has been trained to obey my commands and he did so really well. So they looked at each other, I told my shepherd to "leave it" which he did and I was so proud of him for.

A guy came racing down the road in a truck and asked if his dog caused me any trouble, I told him how it went, he noticed my gun (I open carry out here in the woods), he said thanks for not shooting my dog, he said most people would just shoot it because it's a pit, I said I shoot things that threaten my life and leave things alone that don't..

 

[Sigarms]

Are you saying it's alright to kill a human because they killed a dog?

NEVER!

Could never figure out how one determines the value of a life though and what lifeform is more important than another...

Three things you don't mess with in life, a mans wife, his money and his dog, in no set order.

I've had a gun drawn and a dog no more than about 7 yards from me. Gun was in my hands when the dog was at 20 yards because he was big and mean looking and was showing teeth. I didn't shoot just because he was mean looking, but more importanty I didn't shoot because he/she didn't show his teeth with raised "continuous" gums, and it didn't get any closer when I already had a bead on him.

As I mentioned, an "agressive dog" per it's behavior can be a subjective term.

 

[atsah]

I didn't shoot because he/she didn't show his teeth with raised "continuous" gums,

Who is going to notice "raised continuous gums" other than someone that has dealt with dogs like you have? A lot of people are not going to take a chance because the gums are or aren't raised continuously..



OP I send my best to the little girl..

 

[Molalla1]

Are you saying it's alright to kill a human because they killed a dog?

ovrszd . . . I was connected with the K9 corps in SEA for awhile . . . I know dogs, they all (even little ones) can be killers.

 

[cdaigle430]

I think people get too perverted when it comes to pets like dogs. Granted Dogs are intelligent but they are still unpredictable. Never let them roam from your property, keep children safe from them. I knew a farmer that lost two calves and many wounded calves from a neighbors two pet pit-bulls.

 

[MossRoad]

Clarification.

Daughter talked to the mother this morning. Well, she talks to her three or four times a day. They teach together and are best friends. They are putting a 'wound vacuum' on the leg. Don't know exactly what that is but a lady in our neighborhood with diabetes had to have one on a place on her leg that wouldn't heal.

Also the people at the wound clinic said that the insurance would SOMETIMES take up to fifteen days to approve the machine. I don't have any idea about how their insurance has handled it. I haven't talked to the mother since last Saturday so once again everything is second or third hand info.

Daughter was shown a picture of the girl's leg right after they got to hospital. Said it looked like the pictures you see when a grizzly bear claws something, four long wound channels. The femur was visible.

The wound did not bleed. And Malley never cried. At least until they gave her the rabies shots which went straight in to the wounds. I thought they went into the stomach but that is not true.

RSKY

Regarding the rabies shots....

If you are bitten, they give you globulin shots around the wound (amount based on your body weight), and the actual rabies vaccine is like a flu shot in your arm at day 1, 3, 7 and day 14.

If you have been exposed, but no visible bite marks, they give you the globulin shots in both thighs and both butt cheeks, and the vaccine in your arms like above.

 

[ovrszd]

ovrszd . . . I was connected with the K9 corps in SEA for awhile . . . I know dogs, they all (even little ones) can be killers.

I never implied they can't. If my dog attacked someone without intrusion I would shoot my dog. No attacking pets here.

 

[Molalla1]

I never implied they can't. If my dog attacked someone without intrusion I would shoot my dog. No attacking pets here.

:thumbsup: . . . .

 

[Steppenwolfe]

ovrszd . . . I was connected with the K9 corps in SEA for awhile . . . I know dogs, they all (even little ones) can be killers.

I met a retired Army Colonel in 1980 who kept his unit's attack dog from Nam... Jeepers Creepers, that dog looked like he could have killed a dozen unarmed men if let lose. But, he listened to that man and no other.

 

[RSKY]

Wife's aunt had a large white Spitz. I had been around the dog and played with him since he was a pup. We visited about every other week and the dog would always bring his toys and I would play fetch with him. One time I brought my sister's kids with us when we visited. They were about seven and three. Don't remember exactly but the little girl was old enough that she could run and I would chase her. So she took off running and squealing and I chased her. I still have the scars on my left arm where the dog attacked me. Five minutes later he was back to being my buddy again. The aunt and uncle were very upset and the uncle was ready to shoot the dog but I knew he was protecting the child from what he thought was a threat.

A couple years later the dog saved the aunts life. But that is another story.

I have had dogs and been around dogs all my life. They are animals and you never know what is going to set one off.

RSKY

 

[MossRoad]

About 40 years ago, I had a boss that had a black lab for 6-7 years. One night, the boss walks up to his house, opens the front door, and the dog attacked him right there. Bit the %^$! out of him. Then it turned towards the kids. He managed to corral it and had it put down the next day. Never did find anything wrong with the dog. That upset him pretty bad. Don't know if he ever got another dog after that.

 

[atsah]

I have had dogs and been around dogs all my life. They are animals and you never know what is going to set one off.

RSKY

Same here and I couldn't agree more..

 

[Molalla1]

I met a retired Army Colonel in 1980 who kept his unit's attack dog from Nam... Jeepers Creepers, that dog looked like he could have killed a dozen unarmed men if let lose. But, he listened to that man and no other.

That dog was like the Colonel's trigger finger.

 

[Molalla1]

That dog was like the Colonel's trigger finger.

He must of been a little long in the tooth too . . .

 

[RSKY]

About 40 years ago, I had a boss that had a black lab for 6-7 years. One night, the boss walks up to his house, opens the front door, and the dog attacked him right there. Bit the %^$! out of him. Then it turned towards the kids. He managed to corral it and had it put down the next day. Never did find anything wrong with the dog. That upset him pretty bad. Don't know if he ever got another dog after that.

I worked with a guy back in the early eighties that had two Dobermans. The guy was single, never married, and those two dogs were like his kids. One night he was sitting in a recliner and reached over to pet one of the dogs on the head. The dog attacked him and got him pretty good. Said he didn't think he was going to get it to back off and the other dog got exited and he was afraid it would also attack. After he got away the dog calmed down he got it muzzled and took it to a vet. The dog had a brain tumor. And he had to put it down. He was upset about having to kill his dog but relieved it was him that was attacked and not some kids in the neighborhood. He was torn up pretty bad and missed a few days of work, came in with both arms and hands bandaged. This was more than thirty years ago and I don't even remember the guys name but I remember that he nearly cried telling us the story.

RSKY

 

[goeduck]

I have had a Great Dane, a Mastiff and a Newfoundland in the past, all huge dogs. But these days my biggest dog is a 35 lb Border Collie. Not that it could not do some damage but I would rather have that size of dog after me if something went snap than one of the big dogs I had in the past!

I probably will never get a dog larger than the Border Collie in the future, just easier for me to deal with when going to the vet, in and out of the truck etc.

 

[Dftodd]

Wife's aunt had a large white Spitz. I had been around the dog and played with him since he was a pup. We visited about every other week and the dog would always bring his toys and I would play fetch with him. One time I brought my sister's kids with us when we visited. They were about seven and three. Don't remember exactly but the little girl was old enough that she could run and I would chase her. So she took off running and squealing and I chased her. I still have the scars on my left arm where the dog attacked me. Five minutes later he was back to being my buddy again. The aunt and uncle were very upset and the uncle was ready to shoot the dog but I knew he was protecting the child from what he thought was a threat.

A couple years later the dog saved the aunts life. But that is another story.

I have had dogs and been around dogs all my life. They are animals and you never know what is going to set one off.

RSKY

My Shepherd won't say boo to anyone and absolutely loves people. She went over the fence and put herself between our grandson and his other grandfather. They were wrestling in the front yard in front of her. After that, there was a rule implemented that there is no rough housing with kids at our place

 

[MossRoad]

Back in the 60's a friend of one of my older siblings had a wolf/german shepard mix. She was a huge! Very pleasant animal. Except....

They had a small child, maybe 4 year old boy. Dog loved him just like a pup. Kid could literally ride the dog like a horse. Great times and good protector of the kid.

Kid did something wrong one day, dad went to grab kid, dog stopped dad in his tracks by taking dad's arm in her mouth and growling. Dad had to back down. No damage to dad. But made him think hard about that dog, and what it might do to him, his wife, neighbor kids, anyone else that might do something to the kid that the dog would misconstrue as aggressive. I think they ended up giving it to a farmer friend, if I recall correctly.