DO NOT BUY TC40/45

[LoneCowboy]

Sounds like manufacturing & material problems that all converged into the perfect storm. While the dealer doesnt seem like the greatest Im sure theyre just as tired of seeing it come into the shop as you are of having it break down. Perhaps NH should just get you another that actually works properly then everyone could move on.

exactly
and i should have made them do it last time
but no, I was persauded that it was fixed
NOT
every single time (but one) that it's gone out on a job it's broken.
J-U-N-K

And at this point, i don't want another one, I want my money back, they can keep it.

They did offer for my 50 hour service to be free.
OHHHHH whoop-de-doo
a. it's about 300/400 dollars for the 50 hour service.. I've spent that much in gas running this junker back and forth to the dealer.
b. like it's ever going to make 50 hours

 

[Dougster]

I wish I had known some of this earlier, but this is what I've learned... {snip}

Hi Brian - Hate to hear that you are still bogged down in problems with the TC. Sometimes the joy of working for yourself with these dang tractors can be extremely frustrating. At least you have back-up and even different size machines. I have none except rentals (and those rentals do not come cheap). Seems no matter what job I go to bid lately, I wish I had a bigger... or smaller... machine to do the job right, cost efficiently and safely.

I hope you work out these problems and bugs... or that NH is willing to take the machine back and get you something more appropriate and far more reliable.

Dougster

 

[Cobra-R]

Brian,

Sorry to hear of your problems, they are not typical of the Boomer tractors, I can assure you of that.

My advice to you is to control your frustration (to the dealer and NH) and either get the dealer to contact thier service rep, or you call customer service. With the issues you have had, in my experience, they will step up to the plate and do the right thing without a problem.

Brian

 

[dqdave1]

Get it fixed;again; when it is repaired; trade it on another color. Easy solution and probably the only one that is feasible.

 

[HighLoader]

Brian, sounds like your tractor was put together on a Monday after a long holiday party weekend. Sorry you are having so many problems. I have 170 hours on my (no cab) 2006 TC40DA and have not had any problems with it. I am constantly going back and forth from turtle to rabbit, mostly moving dirt around with the front end loader and boxscraper. I would think New Holland will make sure you are taken care of. I would be frustrated too if I had that many problems!

 

[MikePA]

There's no way that I'm ever making a payment on it,

While understandable, this is not a good idea. You will simply add a fight with NH Credit (a fight you will lose) to your list of problems with the tractor.

 

[Dougster]

While understandable, this is not a good idea. You will simply add a fight with NH Credit (a fight you will lose) to your list of problems with the tractor.

If he does it wrong and without proper communications, you are absolutely right... but handled correctly with appropriate documentation and open lines of communication with NH, this can be a very effective tool to getting their attention and some quicker solutions... including the possible use of a loaner tractor while his is being repaired. There are dangers, of course... particularly to his credit rating... but I would certainly not rule it out... and I would definitely use the threat... if the problems are bad enough and costing him a good chunk of his income.

Dougster

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I wish I had known some of this earlier, but this is what I've learned.

1. It's a cab model in 45hp motor. That's not a ton to begin with, and you can ONLY get the cab model with hydrostat, so there's another 5hp.
So, now you are making maybe 30hp at the PTO
Maybe.
1a. A 45hp tractor should fly with a 6' mower, you can totally bog this one down without much trouble at all.

2. Related to the hydrostat (and maybe all hydrostats have this problem, I don't know), but it's a COMPLETE DOG on any kind of uphill. I mean zippo. I mean 1mph. My other tractors (gear) might chug, might use more power, but they would keep going and you would get done, this one, nada, it just keeps slowing and slowing and slowing. It's colorado, it's hilly, why doesn't it keep going?

3. The cab is a slapdash affair, it's not well insulated (compared to the TN) and it makes a LOT of noise as it rattles around. (the cab, not the tractor).

4. The wheelbase is too short, It rides TERRIBLE. It has too much weight up high (I noticed the loaner non-cab didn't ride nearly as bad) and it's tippy as all get out (even with weighted tires). I'm a fearless guy on slopes, and this tractor scares me to death on any kind of slope, much too short.

5. The power steering pump isn't big enough, you can flat run it out just turning around, at full rpm.

1. The hp loss is common with all tractors that have a cab and hydro. If it was 60hp you would have this loss also and as the buyer you have to know these things ahead of time or learn the hard way. Cowboydoc had a very similar problem with a JD 5000 series, ended up upgrading to a 6000 series I think with JD's help as the salesman assured him the 5000 series (I can't remember for sure but I think it was a 5520) would run his round baler.

2. Is your MF hydro or is this TC your first hydro tractor? Your hydro problem almost sounds like a hydro rookie who is used to gear tractors and uses the foot throttle. If it is, the more you push down on the hydro pedal when going up hill the less power you have. This is how all hydro trannys work but I am sure someone can explain it better then I can.

3. I can't comment on the cab as I have not used a cabbed TC yet but it wouldn't surprise me as NH was under a lot of pressure to put a cab TC on the market so they probably rushed it out the door and will fine tune it over the next year or two. One of the joys of buying a brand new model

4. All large frame compact tractors have too short of a wheelbase which is why I dispise them for most everything if you have rough ground. On smooth ground it is a non-issue. As for the tippy feeling, if the tractor is stock then you have to expect that as compact tractors are designed to be light and any weight up high is going to make them feel tippy. The only cure is to widen the tires out and add weight. Again, this is how all large frame compacts are.

5. What is the power steering pump doing? Can you turn the wheels lock to lock while standing still? What happens if you are moving? If for some reason you can not turn this tractor around rather sharp then you do have a problem somewhere.

Most of your problems sound like a typical compact tractor. The power issue is magnified when you jump from your TN into the TC (I know as I have a TN and a 1920 which was the TC's daddy). How does your TC handle the implements that your MF uses or do you use bigger implements?

I have mixed feelings with regards to compact tractors. They are great for small jobs that are just too small for the larger tractors but overall they are more of a homeowner tractor. And yes, I do know they can do more but not as well as a higher horse tractor designed for the job.

 

[Dougster]

I have mixed feelings with regards to compact tractors. They are great for small jobs that are just too small for the larger tractors but overall they are more of a homeowner tractor.

Robert, I had to smile when I read that... as I refer to my 41 HP, 21-foot long, 7,350 lb Mahindra 4110 TLB as "just my lawnmower" with a friendly smile when folks in the neighborhood drive by and are shocked at the size of my "homeowner tractor" sitting on my modest front lawn or getting loaded onto its 20-foot equipment trailer in the street for a trip to a jobsite.

If Brian's new 45 HP is a mere "homeowner tractor"... then I guess mine is truly just a lawnmower as I've been telling folks here all along.

Everything is relative I guess... and clearly in the eye of the beholder.

Dougster

 

[jinman]

...every single time (but one) that it's gone out on a job it's broken.
J-U-N-K....

....And at this point, i don't want another one, I want my money back, they can keep it.

Brian, my experience is quite different from yours (see attachment). Not only do I get lots of work done everytime I use my tractor, it climbs hills with a load very well. In the photo, I have at least two buckets of dirt in that loader and made 100s of trips up and down the pond dam. I believe you have a bad tractor, but I believe it is wrong to condemn a whole model because of your misfortune. Your tractor may be junk, but mine is not.