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/ Diesel Programmer's #41  
The mileage gains are from advancing the injection events back to where they should be but this does raise NOX emissions some. Eliminating EGR improves combustion efficiency as the engine is not choking on it's own pharts. Thermal efficiency gains too as elimination of EGR reduces combustion chamber temperature prior to the injection events. Of course wasting fuel by setting fire to the particulate filter is obvious enough.
Have to worry what the new age thinkers , agenda 21 lovers at the EPA will come up with in the new tier V emissions. Did anybody think they were going to stop at tier IV ?
 
/ Diesel Programmer's #42  
Old shaft off.
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New shaft on!
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We'll see if there's any difference.
Travis
 
/ Diesel Programmer's #44  
On trucks with DEF, when you delete...................do you still need to run DEF fluid?
hugs, Brandi
 
/ Diesel Programmer's #45  
Well this all fell offView attachment 434039 and this went on View attachment 434040View attachment 434041
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I trip the ODO 101 miles interstate cruise set 75 and then 65 closer into Willis and there I averaged by truck 15.1 done the same on way back and truck showed 23.3. Programmer is set on 65HP with timing(goes 1-10 and I'm set on 3) and timing 1-3 set on 2. I probably leave it set there and be happy,lots of difference from stock where set. Smoke is very minimum if you get on it a little after been running normal,I mean just a hint at first then clears

Beautiful!! Just don't put a lot of faith in what the truck tells you the mpg is. Those programmers screw with it's mind, ya know. :)
I guarantee she'll be much healthier now!
Travis
 
/ Diesel Programmer's #46  
Well this all fell offView attachment 434039 and this went on View attachment 434040View attachment 434041
View attachment 434042View attachment 434043
I trip the ODO 101 miles interstate cruise set 75 and then 65 closer into Willis and there I averaged by truck 15.1 done the same on way back and truck showed 23.3. Programmer is set on 65HP with timing(goes 1-10 and I'm set on 3) and timing 1-3 set on 2. I probably leave it set there and be happy,lots of difference from stock where set. Smoke is very minimum if you get on it a little after been running normal,I mean just a hint at first then clears

So? How much did all this cost you including installation?

Another question....When you 'delete' something, is it just a program change, or do you actually remove some parts?
 
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So? How much did all this cost you including installation?

Another question....When you 'delete' something, is it just a program change, or do you actually remove some parts?

Some remove and add plates,some it's not necessary just unplug. Mine are just unplugged under the hood and the plugs actually look plugged in but they aren't. Total was $2740 installed,husband and wife place,great people,would highly recommend them. We sat and talked about tractor and hay when he got done for half an hour,young couple early 30's like myself(he has a degree in engineering science from A&M also), 10 out of 10 in my book,felt almost like we all knew each other forever.
As for the MPG I know it was better by how much used by gauge there and then back but either way I used a 1/4 tank in the 215 miles I'm happy and I can leave my truck running now while hauling hay with a/c blowing cold for when I get back in
 
/ Diesel Programmer's #48  
It's impressive what all is in the exhaust of these trucks now and that they can still breath. Good luck with the new and improved truck.
 
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I need to learn more about the settings cause those max numbers where set I thought but they change like it's the max the truck has seen at one time,I dunno need to study up. They are suppose to come out with a trans tune sometime
 
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I ran it on level 5 and dang it will get it,couldn't imagine if it was possible to go to 10. It does smoke some on it,so I was close to my brothers and he was gone so I parked next to his 6.0 and blew a little smoke on it,sent video to him,he called laughing

I hauled 12rolls to a guy about 20miles away and it pulled like a champ,it was only on level 3(60hp) with timing and just going off truck again average was 14
 
/ Diesel Programmer's #51  
Those engines respond very well to programmers and can make an impressive amount of power. I wouldn't go over the 60 hp level when towing to keep the auto tranny happy. Keep an eye on your exhaust temps as you don't want to sustain too high of a temperature. One thing related to egt's is that the more timing you use the lower the egt that should be sustained. The reason for this is because the more you increase the timing the sooner the fuel is injected and it creates more "heat soak" into the piston. Increased timing gives the appearance of lowered egt's on the gauge because more of the exhaust heat is used up in the engine but your pistons are taking the brunt of that heat and is why the max sustained temp needs to be reduced a little.
 
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Those engines respond very well to programmers and can make an impressive amount of power. I wouldn't go over the 60 hp level when towing to keep the auto tranny happy. Keep an eye on your exhaust temps as you don't want to sustain too high of a temperature. One thing related to egt's is that the more timing you use the lower the egt that should be sustained. The reason for this is because the more you increase the timing the sooner the fuel is injected and it creates more "heat soak" into the piston. Increased timing gives the appearance of lowered egt's on the gauge because more of the exhaust heat is used up in the engine but your pistons are taking the brunt of that heat and is why the max sustained temp needs to be reduced a little.

Yeah he told me not to pull over the 60Hp with timing but it's also not the most advanced timing level.
What I'm trying to figure is what the norm is for the EGTs to run when pulling a good load
 
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I've seen numbers of 1300 sustained, and short bursts you can go higher.

When pulling the load of hay I never seen over 1100 but it wasn't really pushing it cause only 12rolls,barely breaking a sweat. Thanks for the numbers,I also need to study up on the others,the whole thing about get where I can watch is to make sure everything is going good but need to know what is good. Now in 10yrs when my son gets it that may be a whole different story lol
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/ Diesel Programmer's #55  
Are your readings pre or post turbo? It makes a big difference in the temps that are acceptable. I normally tow on either the 60 or 90 hp setting, with the timing set on either the 2nd or 3rd of three levels, and don't sustain more than 1200*. By sustain I mean for more than a minute, I've seen much hotter for short bursts. My 1200* number is conservative by most but there isn't a set safe number that is set in stone, when you start modifying these engines some respond different than others and the number that is good for me might melt you or vice versa. I choose to err on the side of caution and avoid repair bills, and at 92,000 miles with about 87,000 of those with the programmer on it I've been happy.
 
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I towed 24ft GN loaded down with cattle(after 18holes golf of course :D) today to the house about 30miles and I never seen temps get out the 900s.
 

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