Diesel prices take a jump yet again

[jyoutz]

Simply put, climates change, that is what they do. I have been in the same area for 55 years, some are wetter, some are colder, sometimes the winters are short, sometimes we get no spring at all. Yea they change.

We have had roughly 6 ice ages on this planet, none of which would I consider survivable by humans. We have had some dry hot weather that would be rather inhospitable as well.

Of course climates change, you would have to be in deep (something other than denial) not to know that. For heavens sake how many people will see two hundred year floods? No one will see a 300 year weather cycle. Of course it looks like it is changing to people that only live 80 years for heavens sake.

Every single ice age happened without an iota of help from people or fossil fuels. The next extinction event won't concern itself in the least with people or gas or really any trivial thing we can do. Some where between extremes, earth will be habitable again for a while.

Why intelligent, educated people can't get enough altitude to understand this boggles my mind.

There is 0% chance earth will support human life in current form forever.

We are unable to impact weather in even a trivial way, maybe reduce flooding for the folks that build their houses on cliffs on the west coast and are shocked when they wash down the hill every 20 or 30 years.
Or the folks that build in the same state in beautiful forest that you can't manage, or burn on your own property. Then are aghast when in a couple of dry years the whole thing is a tinder box. Surely as mighty influencers could spare a couple of timely 2 inch rains to save the trees, right?

People believe they are important and impactful. Couldn't be further from the truth, the earth moon and stars will do their thing as if we don't exist.

If you believe living in a hut and driving an electric scooter will delay sea from rising, go for it, I promise to even be careful not cut you off in traffic.

We have so many challenges that mean something and we can have an effect on them, let the planet sort itself, work on something you understand.

Best,

ed

There are pollen records of forest species that have occurred in regions for over 50k years that the climate will not support regeneration of those species today. They are still present on these sites but don’t successfully regenerate in the current climate.

 

[Monster5601]

With all this talk about record high diesel and gas prices and how big oil is raking in profits what's missed is the biggest winner. States and federal government. A number of states tax fuel with a percent tax vs a fixed amount per gallon. Even the states that don't are still making more profit (sales tax, income tax, etc.).

A lot of this talk by the propagandist media is simply injecting distraction to avoid talking about the real issues. Oil companies as well as my state, Michigan, are stuffing their pockets with additional money albeit the percentages are the same. Gas is twice the cost and Michigan's take is an additional 6%, for every dollar gas goes up, Michigan collects another 6 cents in tax per gallon. Big oil is making the same percentages of profit, but the numbers are bigger because the cost of crude has increased. Big oil is not the enemy, the current administration's war on North American fossil fuels is the root cause.

As far as climate change, first off, "climate change" is very ambiguous and data strongly suggest the climate, like the sun, is on a cycle. Right now, ice at the polar caps is at a 30-year high (https://earth.gsfc.nasa.gov/cryo/data/current-state-sea-ice-cover). While meteorologists are not sure what the cycle period is for climate, data suggests somewhere between 50 and 80 years.

They talk about greenhouse gasses and paint the issue to fit their agenda but the facts are clear. Man contributes about 0.06% of the CO2, nature adds the rest, about 3%. The largest share of greenhouse gas is humidity and we have no control over humidity.

 

[Hay Dude]

Anyone who has lived in the same region over 50 years knows the climate is changing. Every old time rancher will tell you the climate is different today than back in the 1960s. Someone has to be in deep denial to not see this.

And some continue to promote the big lie that its all man caused and changing everything to electric will reverse it.
It isn‘t man caused and changing everything to electric won’t do a damn thing to cycles that have been occurring for millions of years

 

[jyoutz]

And some continue to promote the big lie that its all man caused and changing everything to electric will reverse it.
It isn‘t man caused and changing everything to electric won’t do a damn thing to cycles that have been occurring for millions of years

Not going to argue science. You either are educated in science or you have beliefs based on something else.

 

[LouNY]

And a rampant belief in unproven so called science.

 

[jyoutz]

And a rampant belief in unproven so called science.

What education and science degree do you have? Expertise in the subject matter? Published science is peer reviewed.

 

[JESSE1]

When I graduated from high school in '74 the big worry was the coming Ice Age. The climate changes, always has, always will. Wasn't a large part of North America covered by a glacier at one time and water at another time? Our weather forecasters have a hard time predicting the weather a few days ahead, how can they predict fifty years in the future with any accuracy?

 

[jyoutz]

When I graduated from high school in '74 the big worry was the coming Ice Age. The climate changes, always has, always will. Wasn't a large part of North America covered by a glacier at one time and water at another time? Our weather forecasters have a hard time predicting the weather a few days ahead, how can they predict fifty years in the future with any accuracy?

Climate and weather are not the same thing.

 

[Hay Dude]

Climate and weather are not the same thing.

“If you cant dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS”, right?

 

[Hay Dude]

When I graduated from high school in '74 the big worry was the coming Ice Age. The climate changes, always has, always will. Wasn't a large part of North America covered by a glacier at one time and water at another time? Our weather forecasters have a hard time predicting the weather a few days ahead, how can they predict fifty years in the future with any accuracy?

They’re smarter than you. They went to Ivy league schools or they work for the government