Diesel in engine oil

[strum456]

It has new fuel in it. Its a Sims pump. What are your thoughts Whodat? It sounds like you work on the fords a lot.

 

[whodat526]

It has new fuel in it. Its a Sims pump. What are your thoughts Whodat? It sounds like you work on the fords a lot.

are you sure its a sims pump because if its a 345d it should be a rotary pump like on a 3930. does the injector lines come out the top or the back of the pump. If its a sims pump i would think you could have a barrell and plunger problem or the rack isn't work correctly either way it would need to come off and get repaired. If its a rotary pump there is a little screen in the back of the injection pump where the input line goes in you will have to remove the fitting that the line screws in there there will be a spring and you will need a pick to put down inside that whole and pull the screen out. I had a 4610 that was hard to start and didn't have no power and the screen was about halfway pluged so it didn't get the fuel it needed

 

[strum456]

are you sure its a sims pump because if its a 345d it should be a rotary pump like on a 3930. does the injector lines come out the top or the back of the pump. If its a sims pump i would think you could have a barrell and plunger problem or the rack isn't work correctly either way it would need to come off and get repaired. If its a rotary pump there is a little screen in the back of the injection pump where the input line goes in you will have to remove the fitting that the line screws in there there will be a spring and you will need a pick to put down inside that whole and pull the screen out. I had a 4610 that was hard to start and didn't have no power and the screen was about halfway pluged so it didn't get the fuel it needed

And again, I am feeling like an idiot. The pump says Lucas CAV right on it. It does have a Sims cab though :confused2: I will check the screen tomorrow.

 

[whodat526]

And again, I am feeling like an idiot. The pump says Lucas CAV right on it. It does have a Sims cab though :confused2: I will check the screen tomorrow.

yea it is in the back of the pump if you look at the parts diagram at newholland.com the screen is #30

 

[strum456]

Thanks. I'll let you know what happens.

This has been a real disapointment. It barely runs my 7' snow blower, which is half the reason I got the tractor. I am about to put it back on my 860. I never had a lack of power with it the 860, just a lack of reverse gears, traction, and I froze my butt off.

 

[J Penner]

Thanks. I'll let you know what happens.

This has been a real disapointment. It barely runs my 7' snow blower, which is half the reason I got the *******. I am about to put it back on my 860. I never had a lack of power with it the 860, just a lack of reverse gears, traction, and I froze my butt off.

is this pump with a mechanical fuel shut off by any chance do some have a fuel shut off lever option together with an electric shut off i've had a case have lack of power due to shut off lever partially off

 

[strum456]

is this pump with a mechanical fuel shut off by any chance do some have a fuel shut off lever option together with an electric shut off i've had a case have lack of power due to shut off lever partially off

It has a mechanical and electrical shut off. I checked the mechanical one. It is spring loaded, and all the the way open.

I checked the screen tonight. I took the whole filter assembly and all the lines off. There wasn't much dirt, but I blew out everything with compressed air to be sure.

Now I cant get it to run. I can't remember which way the little valve with the spring on it goes when I put it down in the screen filter. I bet I put it in backwards. Does the valve go down in with the open end of the spring facing up, or is it the other way? I tried it both ways. One way I got fuel out the bleeder when I cranked it, but not a big spray like I would expect. The other way I didn't get much fuel at all.

 

[whodat526]

It has a mechanical and electrical shut off. I checked the mechanical one. It is spring loaded, and all the the way open.

I checked the screen tonight. I took the whole filter assembly and all the lines off. There wasn't much dirt, but I blew out everything with compressed air to be sure.

Now I cant get it to run. I can't remember which way the little valve with the spring on it goes when I put it down in the screen filter. I bet I put it in backwards. Does the valve go down in with the open end of the spring facing up, or is it the other way? I tried it both ways. One way I got fuel out the bleeder when I cranked it, but not a big spray like I would expect. The other way I didn't get much fuel at all.

the valve goes in the loader end of the spring. put also since it has a electric kill soleniod have you checked to see if it is operating correctly and also if you pull it out you can remove the plunger out of it the screen the housing back end and try and see if it helps anything

 

[strum456]

I don't understand what you mean by "the valve goes in the loader end of the spring". Maybe I am not taking about a valve. It is a circular piece that is pushed by a spring. Both pieces go inside of the screen that you told me to clean. Does the circlular piece push against the fitting that screws on to hold everything together or does the spring go on the top, pushing the circular piece into the pump body?

How would I check the electric shut off?

 

[whodat526]

I don't understand what you mean by "the valve goes in the loader end of the spring". Maybe I am not taking about a valve. It is a circular piece that is pushed by a spring. Both pieces go inside of the screen that you told me to clean. Does the circlular piece push against the fitting that screws on to hold everything together or does the spring go on the top, pushing the circular piece into the pump body?

How would I check the electric shut off?

i ment lower end and the spring goes toward the screw the holds everything together

 

[J Penner]

If you remove it from the pump there is a pintle nested in the pump housing which should pull into solenoid when it is powered up,you should have power at solenoid with key on,the pintle is pushed down to block fuel passage by a spring (with a light screw driver soleniod should feel slightly magnetic).

 

[strum456]

I tried everything suggested and got no improvement. I pulled the pump and had it tested. The guy said it was working less than 50%. Some stuck pistons and rollers inside the pump were the problem.

Now, for the question: Is there any advantage to setting the pump above the factory setting? The guy that rebuilt it said he turned it up. I dont even know what he was talking about, but I guess 600 something is the factory setting, and he set it around 900. He was really nice and took the time to show me how to turn it down if I feel the need. Should I leave it alone, or turn it down a little while it is a lot easier to do with the pump off the tractor?

 

[J Penner]

leave it the way he set

 

[seecerpent]

Yeah, I had the same problem 3 years ago, had a mechanic pull the injectors, test them, clean them, reinstalled and everything works great, no more rising oil level.