Diesel fuel

[life'sshort timeisgod]

Diesel fuel offroad not recomended. Howdy all. New to chiming in but have gained a lot of knowledge just in reading. Thanks for that. I bought a 2022 Branson 5520h TLB IN May this year. It's at its 50hr service point. When I bought the tractor they didn't have the 50hr service filters and etc in stock. Thought I'd prepay and have the items mailed to me to save me the 4hr roundtrip. Never heard back from them. Ended up ordering my filters from a dealership today. They sent me a download of 50hr service for my tractor that has part numbers and viscosities and such. Hope I can upload it. Anyways while I was on the phone with them he said off road diesel was not recomonded, only on road, taxed, not dyed diesel was recomended. I've looked through all literature and no mention of this. To my understanding sulfer content (and red dye, along with taxes) which is reduced in on road diesel, are the only differences. Anyone else heard of this?

 

[newbury]

Depends where you live. The sulfur content is usually the same in most of the off road I've heard of. One of the main things is to get "fresh" diesel that hasn't had a chance to absorb moisture.

 

[dodge man]

I believe in 99.9% of the cases on road and off road is the same. At one time I think off road could have a higher sulfur content but not any more.

 

[life'sshort timeisgod]

Well I definitely haven't put old diesel in it and luckily the service station 5 miles down the road (a newish mobil) only has on road. The offroad is 8 miles away lol. It's the first time I've heard/seen this since looking at branson. Love the tractor btw! Anyone know the thread for the grease fittings on the backhoe hydraulic cylinders? It's the 250. I've tried 1/8 and m10 and neither wants to thread in. Thank you

 

[life'sshort timeisgod]

I wasn't quite sure when the dealership said that. I thought offroad was for tractors.

 

[RjCorazza]

There is no difference in off road and taxed diesel other than the color. ULSD off road diesel (including heating oil) has been federally mandated in the US since 2014, and was likely 15 ppm sulpher for years before that.

 

[TractorTYMe]

Absolute BS, off road dyed diesel is the same ultra low sulfur as on road diesel. I have 420h with the same engine you've got minus the turbo, no issues. ULSD has been a standard since 2007 as a matter of fact.

 

[life'sshort timeisgod]

That was what I assumed. I'll have to talk to him again. See where his info is coming from. He was very helpful for 50hr service part #s and stuff. That graph had it all. It was 255 for all filters, minus fuel filter, shipped from TX to VT. I was having a hard time just finding the right filters.

 

[life'sshort timeisgod]

That's the only drawback I've seen so far from tym/branson. Still not worth all the extra $ for "name brand".

 

[TractorTYMe]

On the engine you can use NAPA FIL 1626/Wix 51626 oil filters.

 

[mrmikey]

I went to a course CAT put on a few years back regarding their SOS oil sampling and that exact question came up. Their reply was they'es nothing in dyed diesel to damage an engine, dpf, scr or anything.

 

[arto98607]

...............Snip.................Anyways while I was on the phone with them he said off road diesel was not recomonded, only on road, taxed, not dyed diesel was recomended. I've looked through all literature and no mention of this. To my understanding sulfer content (and red dye, along with taxes) which is reduced in on road diesel, are the only differences. Anyone else heard of this?

I would not take any advice from person who said that - not even worth it talking to him.

 

[ruffdog]

Many years ago when ULSD was first coming out, there were some areas that still had the higher sulfur fuel as dyed off-road fuel. Many years later, I would bet that on/off road diesel is all the same except the color.

 

[WM75Guy]

It is the same except for the die. There is very little fuel oil left that is not ULSD. Only a few industries are allowed to use it in existing machines and they are going fast.

 

[deserteagle71]

Anyways while I was on the phone with them he said off road diesel was not recomonded, only on road, taxed, not dyed diesel was recomended. I've looked through all literature and no mention of this. To my understanding sulfer content (and red dye, along with taxes) which is reduced in on road diesel, are the only differences. Anyone else heard of this?

Absolute BS. There is no difference between dyed diesel and on-road diesel other than the dye added to off-road so it can be identified if it is used in an on-road rig. I used to be the one who added the dye to the bulk diesel tank for our off-road machinery back when I was working.

 

[Alan W.]

I know guys who haul fuel. All the same except for the dye. Off road and heating oil is the same just taxed differently.
Ive been running heating oil in my tractor and skid steer for the last 3 years because I inherited an old house with a full 250 gal fuel oil tank.

 

[4570Man]

I don’t know where people get the idea that off-road is harmful. People burn it in multi million dollar mining equipment. It’s not going to blow up a little tractor. It’s exactly the same fuel as highway diesel.