Did you guys know this about outlets? I didn't!

   / Did you guys know this about outlets? I didn't! #61  
The two buildings I am in all the time are like this. Switched outlets, ground up else ground down
 
   / Did you guys know this about outlets? I didn't! #62  
I understand it isn't in the NEC. There needs to be a rationale.

How do you put in a rationale for something that is not addressed in the codes?
 
   / Did you guys know this about outlets? I didn't! #63  
The two buildings I am in all the time are like this. Switched outlets, ground up else ground down

That is not uncommon, but again for a personal preference thing. If you wire 1 house, it may not be a memory issue for what outlets were controlled by a switch. If do a few 100, then simple ‘cheats’ like that helps.
 
   / Did you guys know this about outlets? I didn't! #64  
when we were wiring houses, for a time i also put switched outlets ground up. then some time ago i simply stopped doing that.i dont remember why, i just stopped doing it. it may have been due to customers complaining their outlet was upside down, but i really dont recall.

i guess i just stopped making a big deal about it.


i guess you could always do this
 

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   / Did you guys know this about outlets? I didn't! #66  
How do you put in a rationale for something that is not addressed in the codes?
Well, obviously you can't. So that falls under the category of "purely academic or based on theory and conjecture." so the question of ground up/down/sideways becomes moot because there is no factual basis for an argument.
 
   / Did you guys know this about outlets? I didn't! #67  
when we were wiring houses, for a time i also put switched outlets ground up. then some time ago i simply stopped doing that.i dont remember why, i just stopped doing it. it may have been due to customers complaining their outlet was upside down, but i really dont recall.

i guess i just stopped making a big deal about it.


i guess you could always do this

Ironically I have a home that was built in 91 and I am guessing it was wired by electrician.... I have two different sets of receptical where each half of the duplex receptical is served with a circuit breaker, one half of receptical is 15a for garbage disposal (switched), other half is 15a for dishwasher.... On other receptical one half is 15a breaker for forced air heater and other half is 15a for constant hot water circulation system.... I know not switched, but ground are down in both instances....

And both pair of breaker are pin together so if you want to shut down one circuit the other shared circuit in duplex receptical has to shut off also...
 
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   / Did you guys know this about outlets? I didn't! #68  
   / Did you guys know this about outlets? I didn't! #69  
I got a lot of respect for codes. Contrary to some popular belief they didnt just whip it up. Most of it is long established and the process for a code change is pretty well thought out.
When ever I thought I knew more better I found I didnt. They think of stuff long way off hasn't even occurred to most of us. Despite my most brilliant inspirational moments fount out I was NEVER right, not a single time
 
   / Did you guys know this about outlets? I didn't! #70  
I finally had to crack the book and study some. I follow some forums that helped with book in hand. I found out that "I was always told" and "someone told me" was not really very accurate. If we really go and look local amendments are not as prolific as they are claimed to be. Very few and less and less. I would be interested in seeing them if we can find them written.
That is a bit different than someone told me the electric inspector said. There seems to be the logic that "I did it this way" as being or making it correct.
 
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