Deck sealer...use any successfully?

[marimus]

I would hope that we have discovered some great technology.. and statistically at the rate we are goin.. it looks hopefull.. however to 'bet on it' is unwise.. and conservation will always be the best policy... worst case is we have a clean environment when we come up with the magic technology that will help us keep it that way.. vs bringing it back from the brink..

soundguy

We are getting WAY off topic here, mabey we should start a new thread? Since we are here though I will say this, I think regardless of what we do we are going to be in trouble at some point - due to population increase.

I don't think any new technologies can get around this problem, but I think there will be massive war/famine/starvation etc eventually.

I hope i'm not around then, but I think the environment will continue just fine without us.

 

[Soundguy]

We are getting WAY off topic here, mabey we should start a new thread? Since we are here though I will say this, I think regardless of what we do we are going to be in trouble at some point - due to population increase.

I don't think any new technologies can get around this problem, but I think there will be massive war/famine/starvation etc eventually.

I hope i'm not around then, but I think the environment will continue just fine without us.

Yes.. I do believe we will hit a population load that the planet will not carry.. I don't think it will be in my lifetime though.

And yes..as soon as we are gone.. I'm guessing the planet will do just fine..

soundguy

 

[Bird]

I recently learned that Sikkens no longer makes the "Cetol DEK". They do make a "Cetol DEK Finish" which I'm told is a different formula. I could not find it at any dealer in my area; would have to order it on the Internet, and it's expensive. So I let my local Sherwin-Williams dealer sell me a gallon of Deckscape. It looks great initially, and the water definitely beads or pools on it. I've only done half the job, some with a brush, some with a roller; hope to do the other half tomorrow. The only question will then be how long it lasts. At least it's water based and easy to clean your tools when you finish.

 

[vsumoski]

Every U.S. man, woman, and child will fit in Texas, with each having 62.7 acres.

U.S population 2009 = 2,743,429
Texas area in acres = 172,044,800

 

[Willl]

U.S population 2009 = 2,743,429

Sure about that ?

 

[vsumoski]

Every U.S. man, woman, and child will fit in Texas, with each having 62.7 acres.

U.S population 2009 = 2,743,429
Texas area in acres = 172,044,800

Opps!

Well, a little over half an acre anyway.

U.S population 2009 = 305,529,237
Texas area in acres = 172,044,800

Thanks Willl

 

[jimmyj]

The Cetol is well reputed around here but my neighbor put it on his deck 1 year ago and it's peeling already. The deck is directly in the hot sun.

I have not yet seen a stained deck that has held up very well. My parents spent over $10,000 on a fancy cedar deck and the crummy stain makes it look bad. We just let ours weather. I guess it's a matter of continuous maintenance which seems like a drag to me.

Interesting old post, two, two, two threads in one!

 

[WayneB]

The Cetol is well reputed around here but my neighbor put it on his deck 1 year ago and it's peeling already. The deck is directly in the hot sun.

I have not yet seen a stained deck that has held up very well. My parents spent over $10,000 on a fancy cedar deck and the crummy stain makes it look bad. We just let ours weather. I guess it's a matter of continuous maintenance which seems like a drag to me.

Interesting old post, two, two, two threads in one!

Sikkens Cetol has to be put on properly. If you put it on too thick and do not wipe off the excess there is a good chance it will peel.

When I picked up a few gallons this summer the guy was very quick to instruct me on using a brush to put it down and after a few minutes to wipe off any excess stain. Sikkens does not recommend using a roller or spraying any of their finishes.

I have used Sikkens for a number of projects and guess I have been lucky with it as it has held up nicely for us with our cold northern weather.

As for the formulas all of the companies had to change to meet government regulations.

 

[CurlyDave]

As for the formulas all of the companies had to change to meet government regulations.

Many years ago I knew an older, very wise man, who had worked for a major paint company as an engineer. He said that all of the paint companies changed formulas fairly frequently as the prices of raw materials changed. Apparently they had worked out ways to produce the same result with different formulations.

Now that was back in the days of oil-based paints, and the changes were purely for economic reasons. Formula changes for the purpose of meeting government regulations may well degrade performance.

 

[Bird]

The Cetol is well reputed around here but my neighbor put it on his deck 1 year ago and it's peeling already. The deck is directly in the hot sun.

I have not yet seen a stained deck that has held up very well. My parents spent over $10,000 on a fancy cedar deck and the crummy stain makes it look bad. We just let ours weather. I guess it's a matter of continuous maintenance which seems like a drag to me.

Interesting old post, two, two, two threads in one!

I'm afraid you're right about continuous maintenance. If my deck was just out in the open to all the weather, it would be a little different. Mine is actually entirely under the roof and the north end is at least partially protected by a live oak tree. However, the south end gets the evening sun, any blowing rain from the south, and even water from a lawn sprinkler. So one end needs maintenance once every year or two. The other two-thirds to three-fourths would be OK for many years, but I've always applied a new finish to the whole thing each time in hopes of keeping it all as much alike as possible. I'm sure you can tell which is the north end and which is the south end from the pictures in post #27 of this thread.