Cummins fined $1.675 Billion for gaming their diesel emissions.

[lilranch2001]

It seems someone had a strong dislike for American truckers………

 

[etpm]

I am really surprised by many of the comments here. Cummins cheated. But folks here defend them when other manufacturers manage to follow the rules. Basically Cummins stole money from the other manufacturers who spent the funds to make systems that comply with the law. Cummins did not. So they cheated. They got caught and folks are defending them. What about the other folks who managed to follow the law? I don't get it.
Eric

 

[hiddentacocatneddih]

Are they the only ones to cheat or is the EPA waiting in the correctly time to expose the other brands?

At this point I am thinking it's a tool the gov/politicians have to discredit diesels and manipulate the market

Punishing Vw pushed them into the EV heavy.

This will force the truck industry to do the same even faster

 

[lilranch2001]

I’m not sure I’ve seen any overt defending of Cummins, more of a suspicion of the government, which I think we’ve all got a good reason to have!

 

[RandyT]

Thats just a gut feeling:
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In the end of the day, your cab is your safety structure. A hood and a radiator arent much of a crumple zone. Especially when, apparently, rear underride prevention bars on the back of a trailer arent mandatory in North America...?
In Europe a 5x5" square tube is mandatory.

Underrun protection - WAP Fahrzeugtechnik GmbH

www.wap-fahrzeugtechnik.de

Officially names Mansfield bars after the death of Jayne Mansfield. Who happens to be the mother of Mariska Hargitay who plays the actress Olivia Benson on the TV show Law and Order.

 

[etpm]

Are they the only ones to cheat or is the EPA waiting in the correctly time to expose the other brands?

At this point I am thinking it's a tool the gov/politicians have to discredit diesels and manipulate the market

Punishing Vw pushed them into the EV heavy.

This will force the truck industry to do the same even faster

Diesels are not going away. They are too fuel efficient.
Eric

 

[hiddentacocatneddih]

VW would like to beg to differ.


Diesels can be the perfect solution technical wise but their political power is at an all time low

Political power runs the world

 

[ultrarunner]

I am really surprised by many of the comments here. Cummins cheated. But folks here defend them when other manufacturers manage to follow the rules. Basically Cummins stole money from the other manufacturers who spent the funds to make systems that comply with the law. Cummins did not. So they cheated. They got caught and folks are defending them. What about the other folks who managed to follow the law? I don't get it.
Eric

My only question is can we still have faith the remaining are above board in light of the creative work around on both sides of the pond?

Cummins powers a lot of standby and prime generators...

Mine with low hours are already targets for phase out circa 1995 at the hospital...

 

[2manyrocks]

What are they proposing to replace the Cummins backup gensets? Aren't they still the gold standard for reliable backup genset power?

 

[5030]

Don't know actually. I have a turbo charged John Deere 4 cylinder diesel in my Generac 27KW standby and it's over 15 years old now with no issues other than routine maintenance. Far as I'm concerned, they are all good so long as you maintain them.