Corrosion

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DwightD123

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St Louis Mo
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LS R4041EZ
I have a tractor that is about 10 months old and it seems like there is a significant amount of corrosion taking place. Has anyone else noticed this? In particular I see it on the hydro connections. It looks like oxydization...kind of a white scaley corrosion. I am in the midwest so I don't have the saltwater as a culprit. I am wondering 2 things:
First is anyone else having what they would consider abnormally fast corrosion?
Secondly is there anything that could be done to help ward off corrosion..some sort of light coating of oil/grease?
I look at these things and am already thinking its going to be heck to get these fittings off.
 
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are you seeing rust and pitting of the cylinder rods yet?

take care cause once your rods start to rust/pit your seals get torn up right away. When storing, light grease all the exposed rods frequently and more often if stored outside.

:thumbsup:
 
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By cylinder rods you mean the front wheel rods? Sorry I don't mean to sound stupid just not familiar with the technical terms yet.
 
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Cylinder rods are the shiny rods coming out of hydraulic cylinders.

Manufaturers can add more or less anti-corosion into their paints and coatings and metal prep.

I suspect you got a cheaper brand of tractor, which is fine, but is cheaper for a reason. As well, perhaps it had a longer or tougher boat ride over and got some salt spray, or was hauled across the country in a snow where the roads were heavily salted, or other such.

--->Paul
 
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I think what he is referring to is the white scaly stuff that appears on the "yellow" coated metals. For example.. the bucket level indicator rod that is coated with a yellow metallic finish. Mine has the white stuff on it too. Bolt heads also have the yellow coating but I have not seen any corrosion on them yet, just the level indicator rod.
 
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rambler said:
Cylinder rods are the shiny rods coming out of hydraulic cylinders.

Manufaturers can add more or less anti-corosion into their paints and coatings and metal prep.

I suspect you got a cheaper brand of tractor, which is fine, but is cheaper for a reason. As well, perhaps it had a longer or tougher boat ride over and got some salt spray, or was hauled across the country in a snow where the roads were heavily salted, or other such.

--->Paul

Must be a New Holland owner.
 
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Must be a New Holland owner.

LOL! Pay for an NH sticker and believed the dealer when they said they put special coatings on it that other don't have when they were all built by LS or Dae Dong or whoever.
 
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Ok yes it is the yellow coated metals. They hydro connectors, bucket level indicator,etc... They have the white scaley..what I would call oxydization. I wonder...is there anything I can put on these to keep this from happening. I would think some sort of spray to coat it. Maybe silicone or something. I know I will have to keep doing it but I don't want it to get so bad it becomes an issue that makes it difficult to service.
 
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are you seeing rust and pitting of the cylinder rods yet?

take care cause once your rods start to rust/pit your seals get torn up right away. When storing, light grease all the exposed rods frequently and more often if stored outside.

:thumbsup:

Any specific type of grease you recommend?
 
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I absolutely love my LS but I am not blind to the fact it is less expensive for a reason. If rambler is certain of this and I am seeing the results of this then perhaps it's worth looking into. It doesnt bother me as long as it is something I can work with or fix. The bottom line is: There is corrosion...what are some recommendations?
 
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DwightD123 said:
I absolutely love my LS but I am not blind to the fact it is less expensive for a reason. If rambler is certain of this and I am seeing the results of this then perhaps it's worth looking into. It doesnt bother me as long as it is something I can work with or fix. The bottom line is: There is corrosion...what are some recommendations?

Due a search for Fluid Film I have read on here it works.
 
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I absolutely love my LS but I am not blind to the fact it is less expensive for a reason. If rambler is certain of this and I am seeing the results of this then perhaps it's worth looking into. It doesnt bother me as long as it is something I can work with or fix. The bottom line is: There is corrosion...what are some recommendations?

The yellow coating going white sounds like either indoor paint reacting to UV rays, cheap exterior paint doing the same, or possibly separation from the paint and the surface below due to not cleaning before painting. I could be wrong, but that is what it sounds like. Could you take some pictures to show us?
 
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The yellow coating going white sounds like either indoor paint reacting to UV rays, cheap exterior paint doing the same, or possibly separation from the paint and the surface below due to not cleaning before painting. I could be wrong, but that is what it sounds like. Could you take some pictures to show us?

I will the next time I go to my farm in 2 weeks. I have ordered some Fluid Film as it really looks like a scaling/oxydization rather than a paint issue. I could be wrong though so I will take some pics and post them when I get back. Thanks for the interest in helping me.
 
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The yellow coating going white sounds like either indoor paint reacting to UV rays, cheap exterior paint doing the same, or possibly separation from the paint and the surface below due to not cleaning before painting. I could be wrong, but that is what it sounds like. Could you take some pictures to show us?

What he's talking about is the cadmium plating on the hyd connectors. It's the yellowish plating they put on various hardware items.
 
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What he's talking about is the cadmium plating on the hyd connectors. It's the yellowish plating they put on various hardware items.

Any idea why they put that plating on it? Is it to create an oxidized surface that doesn't go any deeper? If it is a metal plating then I'm sure there has to be a reason for it...
 
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Cadmium coatings are used on metal as a sacrificial coating. It is supposed to "rust" and that rust prohibits air from reacting with the steel it is coating.
Your QD couplers are preforming as designed. It is normal. I often get new cadmium plated chain with a touch of that white dust from sitting in storage.:thumbsup:
 
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The coatings used to be cadmium but since cadmium is considered a carcinogen they quit using it many years ago and now the coatings dont last as long. I am not sure what they use now but it isnt cadmium. Just coat anything steel fixture with a shiny chrome or yellowish tint with a little light grease or hydraulic oil and dont worry about it. The coating is only a micron or so thick anyway and all of them will eventually rust if exposed to the elements. The coatings are mainly just to keep them shiny while in the store.
 
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Sprayed all my shilny parts and bolts with Fluid Film. That stuff is pretty amazing. I also sprayed the transmission ID plate so that will stay easy to read. Once you get going with the stuff it's hard to stop. I don't expect there is a bolt or hydro line or QC that will corrode now.
 
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There is a reason why the Boomer was contracted out to Korea ......... and it is not to improve QUALITY, style, or better engineering. They build for less which will express a couple problems down the road. For the most part they will be just as serviceable. In world economy a price cut in machinery will ultimately reflect metal quality. I just hope its not the bearing in the center of the transmission.... $ 50.00 bearing, $2000 labor to replace along with associated parts. A weekend duty tractor will last eons. The seven - twenty four full use farm edition...... I would go with an old stand by name that stock parts for twenty years and has a reputation for quality.
 
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Wasn't really looking for a buying comparison discussion. I already did the research and it was clear LS was the best value for my needs by a long shot. Like the Deere forums or Kubota forums when there is an issue or perceived issue (and we all have them) this is the place to bring it up so others can help. I found some excellent advice with Fluid Film and it appears to be a $3 can of perfect resolution.
I appreciate your opinion but please consider placing it in the category of buying/pricing comparison and direct specific solution-based answers to specific question threads like this one. Please don't take that as rude but rather constructive direction.
 

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