Corona Virus #7

[the old grind]

I have nothing nice to say about our POTUS, but can't we leave Him and China out of the conversation for a minute or two?

What they have in common IMHO is:

1) NOT at fault for what and where anyone on Earth truly is in danger from Covid-19, esp by 'us' co-mingling as if there was minimal vs heightened risk of transmission.

2) No ability to save anyone's butt and shouldn't be either asked or expected to by people who go out in public as if "we're both laid off and just need to get all six kids out of the house for something to do,", or similarly not grasping 'social distancing' on any level.

I'll always believe that transmissio will always be highest among people who somehow think, "It won't happen to me".

(Karma, Dogs!!)

 

[goeduck]

Trump hits 3M with Defense Production Act to keep mask supplies in the US.

Distributors (separate companies from 3M) were selling to the highest bidder and I do not know that 3M could control them. Seems there would be wartime legislation that would nail those distributors to the wall.

 

[rswyan]

Washington state extends stay-at-home order to May 4 | TheHill

 

[Jaylegger]

I have nothing nice to say about our POTUS, but can't we leave Him and China out of the conversation for a minute or two?

So you believe China and their practices had nothing to do with this mess??

 

[Diggin It]

Seems like at least one of my neighbors fell into the psychosis and has been acting out of character. Older though with lots of health issues, but never expected that one to catch the crazy.

 

[RoyJackson]

Seems like at least one of my neighbors fell into the psychosis and has been acting out of character. Older though with lots of health issues, but never expected that one to catch the crazy.

There's a lot of crazy going on...

That carrier skipper still did the right thing and the Navy upper echelon made a bad decision in relieving him from command. Wouldn't be the first bad decision by the Navy Brass. The skipper was looking out for his personnel...that's one of a skipper's responsibility

 

[pennwalk]

I see the Captain of the carrier Roosevelt has been relieved of command.
They had no choice IMHO. I have read this virus can affect a persons mental abilities...that may be the case here...but no idea.
The news reported that the Captain either leaked the letter, or did not control who got copies of it and was leaked by someone else.

This incident speaks poorly for military readiness. Surely there are policies to deal with epidemics. Covid 19 has been coming down the pike long enough that the people in charge should have been able to do better.

Chris

 

[rswyan]

Governor Dewine has extended Ohio’s stay at home order until early May. He also expanded it:

Coronavirus in Ohio: DeWine extends stay-at-home order until May 1 as deaths increase 25% - News - The Columbus Dispatch - Columbus, OH

 

[pennwalk]

That carrier skipper still did the right thing and the Navy upper echelon made a bad decision in relieving him from command. Wouldn't be the first bad decision by the Navy Brass. The skipper was looking out for his personnel...that's one of a skipper's responsibility

The Captain was in a no win situation. It has happened before. Kind of how bureaucracy works. If you think back to past wars things start out messed up before the country could dig in.

Chris

 

[pennwalk]

Our local paper reported that the hospital thinks the peak here is 6 to 10 weeks out.

Chris

 

[gsganzer]

I work in the power generation industry and the pandemic has hit right at the time many power plants are requiring outage and overhaul to insure readiness and reliability for the peak months. Some of the work can be postponed, but much more cannot and is critical. I'm waiting to hear if my two scheduled projects in AZ and NV are still on for the next 3 weeks. I can't say I'm too thrilled about traveling far from home with the ever changing travel restrictions, shelter at home and quarantines. Needless to say, I'll drive rather than fly.

There's going to be some long discussions today about how necessary this is and how it can be accomplished as safely as possible.

 

[rswyan]

Sailors cheer Navy captain who was removed after pleading for help with coronavirus outbreak | TheHill

They know who has their back ... and probably who doesn’t ...

 

[pennwalk]

Needless to say, I'll drive rather than fly.

Take your camper.

Chris

 

[wheelbuilder]

COVID-19 May Be Transmitted Through the Eye, Report Finds

This talks about it as a possibility. Since he was an ophthalmologist and this method of transfer sounds reasonable in a medical sense I can see him holding that view. I expect we will learn there are many ways it can spread.

Mucous membranes are pretty standard points of entry for viruses and bacteria. This is part of why we should stop touching our faces (and other stuff) without washing first.

 

[RoyJackson]

Sailors cheer Navy captain who was removed after pleading for help with coronavirus outbreak | TheHill

They know who has their back ... and probably who doesn’t ...

Thank you for posting that link!

I've been through a number of change of command ceremonies...only one I can recall cheering was for Commander James H Flatley (of VF-31)

 

[rswyan]

Thank you for posting that link!

I've been through a number of change of command ceremonies...only one I can recall cheering was for Commander James H Flatley (of VF-31)

 

[/pine]

There's a lot of crazy going on...

That carrier skipper still did the right thing and the Navy upper echelon made a bad decision in relieving him from command. Wouldn't be the first bad decision by the Navy Brass. The skipper was looking out for his personnel...that's one of a skipper's responsibility

The captain was fully aware of what happens to just about any military officer that breaks protocol especially when they know that the media will be involved...the term "military intelligence" is an oxymoron...

In no way does him being relieved of his command validate asserted vilifying comments by ignorant laymen...

 

[IslandTractor]

Mucous membranes are pretty standard points of entry for viruses and bacteria. This is part of why we should stop touching our faces (and other stuff) without washing first.

Exactly.

 

[pennwalk]

I don't know if you guys follow the stock market. This epidemic is hammering the stock market. Still a lot of people are waiting for the moment to jump back in. One guy I like is Mohamed El-Erian. Very smart guy. He said today on cnbc:

Calling a specific bottom is difficult task, El-Erian said. But he said he will feel confident the market is beginning to form a bottom when one of two things happen.

“Either we get a really sharp fall or, alternatively, we get good news on the medical side. That good news is starting to happen, but hasn’t reached critical mass,” he argued.

Chris