Corona Virus #7

[Gale Hawkins]

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This is the first I have heard about COVID-19 related brain damage. Hope it is fake news.

The daughter rode in with us this morning. After dropping the wife at the hospital we went to Kroger's then Walmart. Both were more or less well stocked. I waited 2 days for the first of the month rush but both stores at 7:30 then 8 am were busy. WM staff was putting up a huge maze at the front door for crowd management and spacing concerns I expect. Few had their faces covered be it shoppers or staff. We did and that is going to take some time to adjust to but I do not plan to be off the place and out of the car without a mask going forward.

Most of our trips are from the house and to the ER entrance and back. Side trips are starting to feel too risky.

The post by the nurse that was helping in NY drove home a lot of points we need to listen to. I expect locally we are 6-8 weeks from any peak since we still officially on have 6 or so positive cases. The hospital does now have one floor that only is for corona virus patients. I am very thankful that we moved back from Memphis in 1987 and are only 15 miles from work, animal and human food sources. The Nissan Leaf is letting me stay out of gas stations but do need to make a gas/diesel run just in case things start to go south in a major way or get down sick.

Panic is dumb but easy to do. Being prepared helps hide the panic button. Best wishes to all.

 

[/pine]

I don't know if you guys follow the stock market. This epidemic is hammering the stock market. Still a lot of people are waiting for the moment to jump back in. One guy I like is Mohamed El-Erian. Very smart guy. He said today on cnbc:

Calling a specific bottom is difficult task, El-Erian said. But he said he will feel confident the market is beginning to form a bottom when one of two things happen.

摘ither we get a really sharp fall or, alternatively, we get good news on the medical side. That good news is starting to happen, but hasn稚 reached critical mass, he argued.

Chris

The key to buying low in a highly volatile market is use limit orders...place GTC orders set at prices you think an issue could possibly drop to...even if it's inter-session...sometimes you will be rewarded...no big deal if the orders don't get filled...reset the prices as deemed necessary...
I recently scored some CLX (Clorox co) in the very low $160's...this morning it is trading in the $180's...

 

[D2Cat]

Diabetics are considered high risk for the virus. Here's some information about the disease and insulin availability by a couple of endocrinologist. CNBC Asks: Is Coronavirus More Dangerous for People With Diabetes? - Taking Control Of Your Diabetes

 

[MossRoad]

Sailors cheer Navy captain who was removed after pleading for help with coronavirus outbreak | TheHill

They know who has their back ... and probably who doesn稚 ...

And when you watch the video, and all those hundreds of young men and women shouting, cheering, and pressing into a large crowd to cheer the captain.... all of them are breaking protocol to contain this virus, doing exactly what they should not be doing. Gathering in a group, spraying water vapor droplets out of their mouths as they shout and cheer, and breathing in deeply. And while it may sound cruel and heartless, there's something to be said for chain of command, and lack of discipline, as is displayed right there. Young people think they're invincible, and old people need to lead them to do the right thing. That wasn't the right thing for that moment and that situation.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

And when you watch the video, and all those hundreds of young men and women shouting, cheering, and pressing into a large crowd to cheer the captain.... all of them are breaking protocol to contain this virus, doing exactly what they should not be doing. Gathering in a group, spraying water vapor droplets out of their mouths as they shout and cheer, and breathing in deeply. And while it may sound cruel and heartless, there's something to be said for chain of command, and lack of discipline, as is displayed right there. Young people think they're invincible, and old people need to lead them to do the right thing. That wasn't the right thing for that moment and that situation.

You have an excellent point. But... consider that perhaps this was the crews way of showing their respect, dam* the virus, we are showing our support for our Captain.

 

[pennwalk]

My Wife the CFO was up till midnight getting together information for their small business loan. She is afraid if they don't get in early that the first round money will run out. Apparently this program may be very beneficial with loans turning into grants under some conditions. They are talking about calling back the few people that they didn't have work for. If you guys have small businesses you might want look into this stuff.

Chris

 

[MossRoad]

You have an excellent point. But... consider that perhaps this was the crews way of showing their respect, dam* the virus, we are showing our support for our Captain.

I did consider it. And I came to the conclusion it was the wrong thing to do at the wrong time, putting even more of them at risk. That's how people become a casualty in times when they could have been useful had they followed orders. Their emotions get the better of them.

 

[rswyan]

I did consider it. And I came to the conclusion it was the wrong thing to do at the wrong time, putting even more of them at risk. That's how people become a casualty in times when they could have been useful had they followed orders. Their emotions get the better of them.

Nonetheless, it is an indication of what they think about the situation.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I did consider it. And I came to the conclusion it was the wrong thing to do at the wrong time, putting even more of them at risk. That's how people become a casualty in times when they could have been useful had they followed orders. Their emotions get the better of them.

OH... So saving the lives of so many crew members was an emotional response?

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I did consider it. And I came to the conclusion it was the wrong thing to do at the wrong time, putting even more of them at risk. That's how people become a casualty in times when they could have been useful had they followed orders. Their emotions get the better of them.

BTW, try not to be so emotional when you prune a thread. Or is hiding the truth following orders?

 

[pennwalk]

And when you watch the video, and all those hundreds of young men and women shouting, cheering, and pressing into a large crowd to cheer the captain.... all of them are breaking protocol to contain this virus, doing exactly what they should not be doing. Gathering in a group, spraying water vapor droplets out of their mouths as they shout and cheer, and breathing in deeply. And while it may sound cruel and heartless, there's something to be said for chain of command, and lack of discipline, as is displayed right there. Young people think they're invincible, and old people need to lead them to do the right thing. That wasn't the right thing for that moment and that situation.

I suspect that physical distancing is impossible on a ship. I would think you need to implement epidemic protocols very early and maintain isolation of the ship strictly. Can you imagine trying to decontaminate an aircraft carrier? How do you insure that the crew you put back on the ship is disease free? How long will the ship be out of commission? I would be very surprised if the military hasn't thought about epidemics.

Chris

 

[rswyan]

Dr. Tomislav Mihaljevic, CEO of the Cleveland Clinic, this morning:

“Here in Ohio, we have started very, very early,” Mihaljevic said. “Our governor has been very proactive, the measures of the social distancing were implemented early. What I can share with you, at least over the last four or five days, as you know, as you can imagine, we measure the number of patients who are infected and track it on a daily basis. We are seeing some encouraging signs, meaning that the number of patients who are infected here in Ohio seems to be relatively stable or it is growing at a relatively slow pace.”

At least another week’s worth of data would be needed to determine whether Ohio has flattened the curve, but the physician warned that the federal government’s 30-day timeline for slowing the spread was overly optimistic — even if everything goes as hoped.

“It really depends about how effective our measures of social distancing are going to be,” Mihaljevic said. “That will be, on one side, dependent upon when are they implemented, and the big unknown is how far was virus spreading before social distancing was put in place? So the timeline is really challenging.”

“Our modeling predictions are telling us that if we are able to flatten the curve, to some extent, we are expecting the peak of this disease, at least here in our home state of Ohio, to occur sometime between mid-May and mid-June, with a gradual decline in the number of cases towards mid- to late July. This is the best-case scenario.”

 

[cdaigle430]

Dr. Tomislav Mihaljevic, CEO of the Cleveland Clinic, this morning:

Thats funny because its actually the Doctors who are calling the Federal government for the 30 day isolation. Once again doctors dont know crap. and thats whats scary because thats who everyone is following advice from.

 

[MossRoad]

BTW, try not to be so emotional when you prune a thread. Or is hiding the truth following orders?

If you have concern about the way the forums are moderated, PM the owners of TBN and discuss it with them.

 

[DerbyRunner]

the crews way of showing their respect, dam* the virus

Great respect for all the family members they will now go home and infect. NOT!

Carry on.

 

[ericm979]

This site has projections down to the county level of when hospitals will be overwhelmed under various scenarios (social distancing, lockdown, etc): Covid Act Now

 

[pennwalk]

Moss, You are doing a great job and I Thank You.

Chris

 

[IslandTractor]

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[FONT="]Coronavirus 'may cause brain damage' as dangerous swelling found in 'confused' patients[/FONT]

This is the first I have heard about COVID-19 related brain damage. Hope it is fake news.

The daughter rode in with us this morning. After dropping the wife at the hospital we went to Kroger's then Walmart. Both were more or less well stocked. I waited 2 days for the first of the month rush but both stores at 7:30 then 8 am were busy. WM staff was putting up a huge maze at the front door for crowd management and spacing concerns I expect. Few had their faces covered be it shoppers or staff. We did and that is going to take some time to adjust to but I do not plan to be off the place and out of the car without a mask going forward.

Most of our trips are from the house and to the ER entrance and back. Side trips are starting to feel too risky.

The post by the nurse that was helping in NY drove home a lot of points we need to listen to. I expect locally we are 6-8 weeks from any peak since we still officially on have 6 or so positive cases. The hospital does now have one floor that only is for corona virus patients. I am very thankful that we moved back from Memphis in 1987 and are only 15 miles from work, animal and human food sources. The Nissan Leaf is letting me stay out of gas stations but do need to make a gas/diesel run just in case things start to go south in a major way or get down sick.

Panic is dumb but easy to do. Being prepared helps hide the panic button. Best wishes to all.

Any virus, including common cold viruses, can very rarely cause encephalitis (brain damage) and additionally there are some equally rare autoimmune reactions that cause neurological disease (brain damage). I haven't seen anything that suggests that this coronavirus is any worse than others in this regard.

Whenever there is an epidemic with literally millions of cases (remember the reported numbers WAY underestimate the real number of cases in the community) of a viral infection there will be examples of these 1 in ten thousand or 1 in 100,000 type events. It just isn't anything an individual can avoid though as 1) there is no prevention other than avoiding getting infected and 2) treatments are only modestly effective. No sense in worrying as there is nothing you can do about it and the odds of getting such a complication are literally about the same as winning a big lottery.

 

[rswyan]

Thats funny because its actually the Doctors who are calling the Federal government for the 30 day isolation. Once again doctors dont know crap. and thats whats scary because thats who everyone is following advice from.

I think you'll find that doctors - particularly doctors involved in public health like Dr. Fauci or Ohio's Director of Public Health, Amy Acton - tend to hedge their bets as far as any specific time frames go.

They recognize the virus itself gets a vote.

 

[cdaigle430]

I think you'll find that doctors - particularly doctors involved in public health like Dr. Fauci or Ohio's Director of Public Health, Amy Acton - tend to hedge their bets as far as any specific time frames go.

They recognize the virus itself gets a vote.

They ae not the only ones though...even the likes of Dr Oz and so many others say the same thing. So who are we to believe or follow? People like the guy who derailed a train because a hospital ship looked suspicious?

That being said, when it comes to contagious or communicable deceases how can properly followed isolation not stop it? Unless its being distributed by other means deliberately. Like dumped from a plane in the upper atmosphere. Or even distributed by vial from people around the globe.