Corona Virus #4

[ruffdog]

Worldwide...it took two weeks for the COVID-19 cases to double.

Worldwide coronavirus cases top 2,, doubling in two weeks

 

[SJay]

I wake up every morning more stressed and anxious about this than I was the day before. To make matters worse, I'm home with our two little boys and need to focus on them and not let it affect my mood with them. My wife is a pharmacist and goes in every day to one of the last major opened retailers in our area. I can't believe I, too, brushed this off a mere month or so ago. It's like living a nightmare every day with no end in sight. I know it will eventually end, but at what cost and how long.

One suggestion - stay off this thread - a lot of gloom and doom. Should we be prudent - Yes, should we be careful - Yes.

Look for good news:
1. The total number of cases in Italy rose to 31,506 from a previous 27,980, up 12.6 percent - the slowest rate of increase since the contagion came to light on February 21. Italy is the European country hardest hit by coronavirus.

2. 21 New cases in China - 20 of those from people coming into China

3. As the number of COVID-19 cases confirmed overseas daily have surpassed those within China, the draconian measures that appear to have quelled the outbreak domestically - particularly outside Hubei - are gradually being relaxed.

Chongqing, Yang's hometown bordering Hubei, has had more than 500 confirmed cases since the disease started to spill into the municipality. But now, there have been no cases in the city for several days.

The slowdown is not only in Chongqing. Across the country, 13 out of 34 provinces in China have cleared their remaining cases, and approximately 69,000 of 81,000 confirmed cases have been discharged.

4. All 16 temporary hospitals in China have been shutdown.

Will it get worse in the USA - Yes, but it will taper off and end and we will get back to a new normal (I thinks social distancing will continue).

China has a population of 1,408,526,449 people and 81,000 got the Virus = .0000575069 of the population was infected. Some people make it sound that if you see a person with the virus you will get it.

If we figure that the virus started on January 1st, then 325,000 people have died in car accidents worldwide. 3,250 per day everyday of every year. Yet, everyone of us will hop in their car and drive anywhere and not think twice about it.

Yes, sadly I do understand people will die because of this and family will be shattered. I wish that wasn't the case.

I guess I try to look for some positive things instead of looking at the negative things.

 

[daugen]

well this mess hit home here today. Not at the supermarket, got my bag of potatoes (just restocked) and a half gallon of milk.
And no one in there. They were out of wipes up front, now that's a problem. I'm not touching a food cart unless I wipe it first...

But when I got home I read an email from the carpenter I hired three weeks ago to come fix several things here in prep for selling my farm, and he just advised me he was cancelling all his jobs and staying home. Really? I live alone on a 24 acre farm, not like crowds of folks wandering through here. I wonder if he got sick and this is his way of dealing with it. There can be many good reasons like his own health, but sure annoying and makes me scramble to find someone else.

 

[daugen]

I guess I try to look for some positive things instead of looking at the negative things.
:thumbsup:
like they predict that because of all the sanitation efforts going on, regular flu deaths are supposed to be trending down. ?

but...we hope for the best and plan/take precautions for the worst.

 

[ruffdog]

It looks like the markets are going wild again:

Stock market live updates: Futures tumble, hit '''limit down''' halt, S&P 5 ETF down 6%

 

[TnAndy]

But when I got home I read an email from the carpenter I hired three weeks ago to come fix several things here in prep for selling my farm, and he just advised me he was cancelling all his jobs and staying home. Really? I live alone on a 24 acre farm, not like crowds of folks wandering through here. I wonder if he got sick and this is his way of dealing with it. There can be many good reasons like his own health, but sure annoying and makes me scramble to find someone else.

Maybe he is looking at the fact he has to stop and get gas before/after he leaves your place, and he has to go deal with materials suppliers, and maybe any number of other public contacts, NOT located on your farm, in the performance of his job, and has made the decision it's not worth it. MAY not be all about you.

 

[rswyan]

Maybe he is looking at the fact he has to stop and get gas before/after he leaves your place, and he has to go deal with materials suppliers, and maybe any number of other public contacts, NOT located on your farm, in the performance of his job, and has made the decision it's not worth it. MAY not be all about you.

Plus he may not know where daugen has been ... and who he has been in contact with.

 

[ruffdog]

The virus can live for hours in the air and for days on surfaces. Holding your breath around other people isn't working...

Coronavirus can persist in air for hours and on surfaces for days: study - Reuters

 

[riptides]

Maybe he is looking at the fact he has to stop and get gas before/after he leaves your place, and he has to go deal with materials suppliers, and maybe any number of other public contacts, NOT located on your farm, in the performance of his job, and has made the decision it's not worth it..

I was out and about yesterday, checking on a family member. I ran out of sanitized solutions before I even got to my final destination. I thought I was going to limit my exposure to people too. It did not go as planned. I was amazed at how many things I touched and how many people I had to come into the sphere of contact with.

People under estimate how they interact physically in the world.

 

[BRMyers]

One suggestion - stay off this thread - a lot of gloom and doom. Should we be prudent - Yes, should we be careful - Yes.

Look for good news:
1. The total number of cases in Italy rose to 31,506 from a previous 27,980, up 12.6 percent - the slowest rate of increase since the contagion came to light on February 21. Italy is the European country hardest hit by coronavirus.

2. 21 New cases in China - 20 of those from people coming into China

3. As the number of COVID-19 cases confirmed overseas daily have surpassed those within China, the draconian measures that appear to have quelled the outbreak domestically - particularly outside Hubei - are gradually being relaxed.

Chongqing, Yang's hometown bordering Hubei, has had more than 500 confirmed cases since the disease started to spill into the municipality. But now, there have been no cases in the city for several days.

The slowdown is not only in Chongqing. Across the country, 13 out of 34 provinces in China have cleared their remaining cases, and approximately 69,000 of 81,000 confirmed cases have been discharged.

4. All 16 temporary hospitals in China have been shutdown.

Will it get worse in the USA - Yes, but it will taper off and end and we will get back to a new normal (I thinks social distancing will continue).

China has a population of 1,408,526,449 people and 81,000 got the Virus = .0000575069 of the population was infected. Some people make it sound that if you see a person with the virus you will get it.

If we figure that the virus started on January 1st, then 325,000 people have died in car accidents worldwide. 3,250 per day everyday of every year. Yet, everyone of us will hop in their car and drive anywhere and not think twice about it.

Yes, sadly I do understand people will die because of this and family will be shattered. I wish that wasn't the case.

I guess I try to look for some positive things instead of looking at the negative things.

I like your optimize, but no one believes the Chinese numbers. Most articles I have read places Chinese numbers off by 10X what they are claiming. An interview yesterday on the news with an individual in Wuhan, they are still under quarantine and strict isolation measures. Even in the US press briefings they have commented that the Chinese have not been telling the truth to the other nations.

Current projections for deaths in the US alone from this outbreak is between 200,000 to well over a million. The experts are hoping for a death rate between 1-2%, which the flu is 0.1%.

 

[newbury]

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But when I got home I read an email from the carpenter I hired three weeks ago to come fix several things here in prep for selling my farm, and he just advised me he was cancelling all his jobs and staying home. Really? I live alone on a 24 acre farm, not like crowds of folks wandering through here. I wonder if he got sick and this is his way of dealing with it. There can be many good reasons like his own health, but sure annoying and makes me scramble to find someone else.

Perhaps he thinks staying home safe is better since it appears everyone will be compensated by the government.

I like your optimize, but no one believes the Chinese numbers. Most articles I have read places Chinese numbers off by 10X what they are claiming. An interview yesterday on the news with an individual in Wuhan, they are still under quarantine and strict isolation measures. Even in the US press briefings they have commented that the Chinese have not been telling the truth to the other nations.

Current projections for deaths in the US alone from this outbreak is between 200,000 to well over a million. The experts are hoping for a death rate between 1-2%, which the flu is 0.1%.

And they threw out most if not all of the American press.
No reporting, no cases.
Just like it was here for weeks.

 

[/pine]

I hope the deniers realize that we are well past the point where their positions had a chance of realization...They will never have an opportunity to say "I told you so"...the measures being taken by the powers that be have already more than proved themselves to be both prudent and effective...just look at the available data...If the deniers had a modicum of a clue to interpret the data they would simply sit down and shut the **** up...!

 

[5030]

I hope the deniers realize that we are well past the point where their positions had a chance of realization...They will never have an opportunity to say "I told you so"...the measures being taken by the powers that be have already more than proved themselves to be both prudent and effective...just look at the available data...If the deniers had a modicum of a clue to interpret the data they would simply sit down and shut the **** up...!

Exactly Slash but understand, Blue Ribbon Whiners abound in this country. It's a national past time, whining about poor decisions and try to lay the blame on someone else for your own stupidity.

Maybe the majority of them will expire from the Wuhan Flu. We'd probably be better off for it. They can then whine to the maker. I'm sure he will listen, for an eternity.

 

[stuckmotor]

I did a terrible thing.
I went to Walgreen for some eye drops. The place was nearly empty and people were pretty far apart. All of a sudden I sneezed. It happened so fast I didn't think to cover my nose and mouth. The one lady who was near me could be washing the clothes she had on right now. I'm so ashamed.

 

[5030]

You have to grudgingly admit that XI came up with an almost perfect biological weapon and like a good dictator, did a first article test on his own subjects.

Pretty insidious disease really. Best part is, if you best it, nothing says you cannot get it again and again and again kind of like the common Asian flu but with a twist, it don't impact young kids so much, just adults so it's a nice population control and repeat performances as you age, the mortality rate increases so it's a helluva retirement package too.

Cannot beat it. My hat is off to XI and his biological weapon. Great tool and I especially like the way he tested it out on his own people. Smart dictator there... Make sure it works as planned before you 'accidentally' let it leak out so as not to put the blame directly on yourself. Come out smelling like a rose and watch the world succumb.

 

[stuckmotor]

Japanese flu drug 'clearly effective' in treating coronavirus, says China | World news | The Guardian

 

[k0ua]

What is really funny is that here in North America, the trees are budding out and tree pollen, and other pollen numbers are rising fast. Those that suffer from allergies are going to be doing a lot more sneezing in the next few weeks. Bad timing..

 

[CobyRupert]

You have to grudgingly admit that XI came up with an almost perfect biological weapon and like a good dictator, did a first article test on his own subjects.

Evidence? Source?

 

[rekees4300]

US, Canada to close border to nonessential travel

Trump: US, Canada to close border to nonessential travel

 

[Gale Hawkins]

After I took the wife to work I went to Walmart. Other than paper goods stocking was OK at 7am for the most part. Milk was full, the selection of tuna was more or less stocked and I got 60 pounds of dry cat food because TSC ran out yesterday. I did see one basket with a 12+ roll of TP. Several cars were in the parking lot. Town is mostly dead with no school or college and many businesses told to shut down. McDonald's appeared to be Drive Thur only. Dental offices, barber shops, etc was closed by the KY governor. All day care closes at 5 PM tomorrow I think. Gas is $1.83 but no one was pumping at 7 am it seemed. Town was dead.

Things are not going to be back to normal in any 2 weeks. Talked to one successful contractor who is only managing his rental properties. He is good but does have a $23K monthly payment for some of the newer stuff. Over time if people do not pay their rent and he can not remove them he said it would be stressful but most likely there will not be others with money looking for housing. Employment is going to keep dropping locally at least near term. Businesses on the edge already I expect will for the most part just close shop. More and more will go ahead and get on Social Security if that is an option open to them I expect.

We have rain and more rain but flowers and trees are hopeful looking and seem to indicate that the world is going to keep spinning.