Buying Advice considering a 4120

[Double6]

I have a newer open cab 4120 with PowrReverser transmission with a 400CX loader.
I really like it, at 100 hours no problems so far.
As stated by others, I highly reccommend getting a block heater installed if it doesn't have one, starting in cold weather will be a cinch.
Best of luck on your purchase.

 

[tschwerm]

Ok so here is where I am at I just tested out the NH T2310 and I know someone said the hydraulics on the JD4120 is larger output. I was a little disappointed at the speed of the loader I was running it at about 1500 RPM. Regarding loader work I tried the joystick control on the NH and I am used to two lever controls for loader (1959 Wagner loader on my Ford 601) when you try to pull back and in on the lift and bucket tilt on the NH T2310 it does tilt first then lift. Does anyone have an input on how the JD joystick works when you are pulling back and in towards you, does the loader also start with the bucket tilt first then lift?

The only JD that I have seen did not have a loader on it.

In my comparison I have found a used 2004 (350 hours) JD4120 with the 400CX but being a few states away I have not had the luxury of trying it out yet. The 2008 NH T2310 is about a half hour away and it still has warranty left.

I am looking at a $3800.00 difference between the JD4120 and the NH T2310 comparably equipped . JD being higher of course any comments would be greatly appreciated.

 

[AKfish]

Do you have a JD dealer close-by? If so, how do you feel about working with them for the foreseeable future compared with the NH guys?

That simple answer - can have a profound effect upon your overall happiness with your next tractor!!

You didn't mention what transmission types each tractor has. (Although, if you get the chance to operate different tranny's; that may help you decide what you like/don't like, too.)

The JD specs out better than the NH. And the 400CX loader has a higher load capacity than the more common 400X FEL on the 4000 series. So, on paper the JD is more capable; does that make it $3,800 better... that's the $64 question!?!

If you have a local, JD dealer - go check out his inventory. The 4000 series all have the same hyd capabilities; gpm, psi, etc. So, the 4120, 4320, 4520, and 4720 loader's will all respond similarily. See if you could have 10 minutes of seat time on one of 'em. 'Cause even if you buy that 4120 "long distance" you'll have to work with those guys down the road.

Good luck.

AKfish

 

[tschwerm]

Thanks that is a good idea, Actually I started with the local JD dealer just does not have anything used in my size, but I am sure he could give me some seat time on a new one. By the way both are hydro transmissions.

Interesting comment from the NH dealer I was asking about which gear he uses to mow with his brush hog and he said high if it get to hard the tractor just stops moving forward in that gear. Does that happen on a JD eHydro as well?

 

[tschwerm]

I hoping to get your opinion on the price. The 2004 JD4120 with 400CX (360 hours) with my trade the dealer is asking $18,800 (My tractor is 1959 Ford 601 Fully restored was my dad's originally I have all the papers and manuals). The 2008 NH T2310 with 16LA Loader has 250 hours and about 15 month of warranty price with my trade is $15,000.

What is your thought on the price of each and which would you choose?

 

[AKfish]

Interesting comment from the NH dealer I was asking about which gear he uses to mow with his brush hog and he said high if it get to hard the tractor just stops moving forward in that gear. Does that happen on a JD eHydro as well?

I have eHydro on my JD110. My neighbor has a JD4320 with eHydro. I have used her tractor to rake and tedd hay with. On the hills, when combining windrows, etc. when the tractor pulls down, if you don't step back off the forward pedal it will bog and drop rpm and start to spin the tires.

I've never tried to intentionally stall either tractor.. but, whenever I've been in a situation that the tractor might stall out - it's just as likely to break traction before the engine would ever die.

I don't have enough information to make an educated guess regarding good price/good deal for either of the machines in question.

Depending upon where you live; prices can be generally higher or lower from somewhere else.. And it's a black box regarding how much your trade-in is worth to the dealer or selling it yourself.

You're gonna have to "gather that wool" yourself and do some research.

AKfish

 

[tschwerm]

I found a dealer closer than two states away who is looking through his 4X20 machine inventory to find the kind i am interested in.
He seems interested in my trade as well. Hopefully I will hear from him tomorrow. He is only 3 1/2 hours away.

 

[tschwerm]

New update the closer dealer (160 Miles away) was not quite so true to what he was quoting (seemed too good to be true) and found out I was right the tractor had 1400 hours not 400!

Back to the other dealer I am actually driving 5 hours to try out the 4120.

So I asked both the NH dealer and the JD dealer throw in a set of forks.

NH dealer split the cost $600 for $300 bringing the total on the 2008 T2310 up to 15,300. It still has 18 months warranty. the JD dealer said he can give me the Frontier HD 48 in. forks at cost $675 bringing the 2004 4120 total to $19425 he did agree to deliver the JD 5 hours away at that price, but no warranty.

That price by the way includes my 59 Ford restored 601 workmaster with Wagner 150 loader. any inputs?

 

[radman1]

New update the closer dealer (160 Miles away) was not quite so true to what he was quoting (seemed too good to be true) and found out I was right the tractor had 1400 hours not 400!

Back to the other dealer I am actually driving 5 hours to try out the 4120.

So I asked both the NH dealer and the JD dealer throw in a set of forks.

NH dealer split the cost $600 for $300 bringing the total on the 2008 T2310 up to 15,300. It still has 18 months warranty. the JD dealer said he can give me the Frontier HD 48 in. forks at cost $675 bringing the 2004 4120 total to $19425 he did agree to deliver the JD 5 hours away at that price, but no warranty.

That price by the way includes my 59 Ford restored 601 workmaster with Wagner 150 loader. any inputs?

With a newer tractor, warranty and $4K in savings, I would have to consider the NH over the JD.

 

[jenkinsph]

I hoping to get your opinion on the price. The 2004 JD4120 with 400CX (360 hours) with my trade the dealer is asking $18,800 (My tractor is 1959 Ford 601 Fully restored was my dad's originally I have all the papers and manuals). The 2008 NH T2310 with 16LA Loader has 250 hours and about 15 month of warranty price with my trade is $15,000.

What is your thought on the price of each and which would you choose?

I would get prices without a trade, I think you are giving away your dad's tractor. I think it is handy to have more than one, something to consider.