cold starting

[mffarmall]

I like the WD40 thing. I love the stuff. Put in one things before I sell them. Makes things look pretty.

 

[mffarmall]

About the block heater. I don't hear it working. I usually hear a rushing sound and a hum. So I might need to plug it in and let it run for a few hours? Can I put a therm on it and check for heat?

 

[atgreene]

Put your hand on it, you'll feel it after 20 minutes or so.

 

[robert421960]

The ground is cold, when native people are in cold situation they lay fiber and other items down before they put down their sleeping cloths. The heat from a body will draw cold up. So the wood puts a barrier between the engine and the cold that rises. Metal is a cold sponge, it takes it in like a cold blooded rep takes heat. The wood pushes the cold away. And if their is snow on the wood it acts like insulation when the engine is warm and sitting on the wood. As the tractor cools it draws the cold up from the ground.

i do thank everyone for their help here
im gonna buy a block heater soon
as for the plywood thing
not much sense i dont think
the air is usually colder than the earth
but im just a southern country boy from ky
what do i know

 

[Dangit]

I have a lower rad heater (is that the same as a block heater?)for my Jinma 454. Every time I plug it in it trips the breaker. Any ideas?

 

[greg_g]

I have a lower rad heater (is that the same as a block heater?)for my Jinma 454. Every time I plug it in it trips the breaker. Any ideas?

As the name suggests, a block heater is installed in the block - typically in a freeze plug hole. Obviously the "lower rad heater" is installed in the bottom radiator hose.

If yours is new, it's defective. Return it . If you rewired a used one, line and neutral are shorted together somewhere in or between the plug and the heater body.

//greg//

 

[mffarmall]

As long as the tractor starts, that is all that matters. I also hit the lid of my mail box before opening. It might not scare the spider inside away, but it makes it feel "safer" to my hand.

 

[mffarmall]

My mistake, I have a lower hose heater, not a radiator heater. Sorry if that that threw you.

 

[mffarmall]

I have a lower rad heater (is that the same as a block heater?)for my Jinma 454. Every time I plug it in it trips the breaker. Any ideas?

If you have a 15amp outlet it might be because you have to much power draw(sp). Try looking at what else is plugged in. And try a short extention cord. Sometimes the distance can cause problems. Or like mine time to take it back and get a new one.

 

[mffarmall]

Tried the WD 40 thing. Works well. Thanks for the idea. Watched the plow on You tube. That looks like an old 16mm film?

 

[atgreene]

Tried the WD 40 thing. Works well. Thanks for the idea. Watched the plow on You tube. That looks like an old 16mm film?

Nope, cheap digital camera last year. Have a flip now, will post one from yesterday shortly.

 

[mffarmall]

Keep that cam. It has a nice effect for 16 and super 8 from the 70's. The only bad thing was that I was looking at sports ill when the wife walked in. I got in trouble.

 

[greg_g]

If you have a 15amp outlet it might be because you have to much power draw...

A 110v hose heater rated at 600 watts only pulls ~5 amps, no surge. To trip that fast, the circuit from which the heater draws would have to be loaded close to capacity already. My money's on a defective heater or heater cord.

//greg//

 

[mffarmall]

I thought he was saying that his breaker in the outlet was going off. So if he has 11 amps on before he starts the heater. It will trip the breaker. But if the heater is the problem. I know what wire your talking about. I touched it a few days ago.

 

[mffarmall]

I found my reciept under a rock out side for mine. So in the morning I will be taken and replacing my broken one. I just hope my ruber does not tear anymore. Not sure why it was out side. But really it's not the strangest thing I've done.

 

[greg_g]

. So if he has 11 amps on before he starts the heater. It will trip the breaker..

Naw, doesn't work quite that fast. Overloads cause heat, heat trips breakers. It takes a while for enough heat to build up to trip one. But a direct short will cause a breaker to trip instantaneously.

Besides, there aren't (or shouldn't be) many normal household circuits that pull near-capacity amperage full time. Your suggested 15A circuit for example; if it was already loaded with 11A as you suggest, that's the equivalent of nearly 22 sixty watt light bulbs burning simultaneously.

I like your filing system. I had a neighbor that found his tools that way. As long as he remembered where he used it last, that's where he'd find it the next time he needed it. And if following the instructions on cord placement stuck it out where it could catch on something, just install the replacement using your own common sense. Protect the cord.

//greg//

 

[mffarmall]

just install the replacement using your own common sense. Protect the cord.
//greg//

I get the cord part. But it's the common sense thing that usually gets me into trouble.

 

[mffarmall]

I replaced the first lower heater with an exact exchange. Worked well for about two weeks. Then stopped working. I took off the red cap and found water inside it. So I went to the store and got a magnetic one. I figure second best that works is better then best not working.

 

[valley]

mffarmall, Greetings Colorado. I put a Kats on the lower hose, from auto supply, and Love it. Takes about an hour.
How's the weather there? This is what I found this morning. Had to wade out to hook up the heater.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I replaced the first lower heater with an exact exchange. Worked well for about two weeks. Then stopped working. I took off the red cap and found water inside it. So I went to the store and got a magnetic one. I figure second best that works is better then best not working.

I take it you leave your tractor out in the weather? If so why not just seal it up with some RTV? The mag heater is a joke, been there done that. It would not heat up a cup of coffee in August.

Chris