Cold Rolled or Hot Rolled

[jaydee325]

I want some hydraulic cylinder safety props. 2 - 2" X 16" pieces of angle should do the trick. What would be better to use, hot rolled or cold rolled?

 

[RickB]

For that job it doesn't matter.
What does matter is how thick the angle is and you're leaving that info out.

 

[Yogi05]

I'm in the same boat and I was thinking U channel for contact on 3 sides of the prop.

 

[jaydee325]

For that job it doesn't matter.
What does matter is how thick the angle is and you're leaving that info out.

How thick should I go?

 

[RickB]

Depends how big the loader is. 3/16" will support a lot.

 

[ArlyA]

`Like Yogi says, a channel would be better to assure it doesn't pop out. You could add some tabs to a angle, to make that.

 

[Rustyiron]

That's a compression load, very easy for a 3/16-1/4" angle. Maybe 2x2, 3x3 might provide a better "footprint".

 

[kennyd]

You can even use aluminum angle or channel, less chance or marring the rod. I've never seen "cold rolled" angle though.

 

[metalbender]

Good point on marking up the rod. I use 2x2x3/16 steel. A couple layers of duct tape would go a long way to prevent marks.

 

[Yogi05]

I always figured this

would work better than this

WAY more contact with the piston housing.

 

[ruffdog]

I even bet 1/8" U-channel would support it fine. Maybe spray the inside with undercoating to protect the rod?

 

[Smokeydog]

Glad you are thinking of safety. 1/4” cold rolled would be fine. This one is made of flat stock welded like a channel. Easy to deploy and store on machine. Rubber bumper so the metal never touches the rod. Real ones are secured with substantial hardware so they can’t slip out under load.

 

[RickB]

I even bet 1/8" U-channel would support it fine. Maybe spray the inside with undercoating to protect the rod?

How much are you willing to bet? A life?

 

[ruffdog]

How much are you willing to bet? A life?

It would depend on loader size and if one brace per side or one per cylinder. Also, it depends on the geometry of the cylinder and the framework. The brace for smokeydog's loader looks very appropriate for the size and geometry and I probably would have went thicker if I made it. What if a person has a loader 1/4 the size and only wants to brace it so the loader is half way up where the geometry is much more favorable? I think the brace for the dump bed of my RTV was only 3/32 at the most.

 

[BravoXray]

Here is what I made for the loader on my BX2230. 1 1/2" square tube with one side cut out with plasma cutter, 1" washer cut to fit over cylinder rod, and a 1 1/2" shaft collar sliced in two and a 120° piece cut out to fit over trunion on end of cylinder.

 

[PILOON]

I DIY'd a pair for my FEL recently.
I used plain 2 x 2 angle but welded washers on both ends that I slit in such a way to create a 'U' that I then welded on the ends.
My goal was to 1- spread the contact area, 2- to protect the seals on the cylinders.
I basically let gravity hold them snugly in position once I gently lower the FEL.

I know one was sufficient but a pair is additional insurance.
(and I had lots of angle stock)
Bright paint used to identify them as dedicated 'tools'.

 

[Aquamoose]

Here is what I made for the loader on my BX2230. 1 1/2" square tube with one side cut out with plasma cutter, 1" washer cut to fit over cylinder rod, and a 1 1/2" shaft collar sliced in two and a 120° piece cut out to fit over trunion on end of cylinder.

That’s straight up quality! I like it!

 

[Smokeydog]

The safety prop on the M59 shown is factory OEM. Like to think they engineered appropriately to be safe. Common in construction equipment. Wish it was utilized more on ag equipment. Really needed on larger tractors to access the engine bay. Agriculture and forestry industries are exempt from most OHSA rules.

Fabricating one for the smaller tractor is on my to-do list.

 

[5030]

I want some hydraulic cylinder safety props. 2 - 2" X 16" pieces of angle should do the trick. What would be better to use, hot rolled or cold rolled?

Angle iron only comes in hot rolled. Cold rolled is reserved for flat material and it's way more expensive.

 

[5030]

You can even use aluminum angle or channel, less chance or marring the rod. I've never seen "cold rolled" angle though.

Because it don't exist.