Chinese knockoff saws?

[xyz123]

Serial Numbers

1 at the beginning of the serial number indicates the unit was
manufactured in Germany

2 and 5 would indicate the unit was manufactured in the United States

3 represents Brazil

8 represents China

Where you think those parts come from when it says made from domestic and foreign parts in your stuff. Heck even the pro saws have the China made parts in them.


2005 for this one and they owned the China Zama carb plant longer then that by a long shot too.

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[Hay Dude]

Okay we get it - sounds like you would like all Chinese and other chainsaw spare parts & equipment copiers either close down the shop, or at least not be able to sell anything in USA.

Do you want the same for all other OEM spare part manufacturers who are copying for example car spare parts - or is it just the chainsaws?

Or is it only the fact that they offer a 100% set of spare parts where customer can assemble a complete saw if they wish, or is it that you just don't like chicoms?


I on the other hand want to have some competition for the usually outrageously priced OEM spare parts, whether it's car parts, chainsaw parts or any other equipment we are using!

Some truth and good smack-talk there.

You have to feel for the guy who is trying to make ends meet sawing for a living. Usually we aren’t millionaires. I remember scraping together all my money to buy good saws. Now fortunately I have made enough to buy them without too much concern.
I’ve made my views well known about buying china made products. It’s not so much the product itself, it’s the leadership of the country and what it is doing to the world.

The fact that there’s no viable American made saw is what’s really sad.

 

[xyz123]

Guess where everything we post with here is made at.

 

[Eagle1]

Here are a few of the better known chain saw brands. The made in label only applies to final assembly, parts may be produced in any location or by other third party companies anywhere in the world. Heck Beef from the USA only means it was packaged in the USA, nothing to do with where the cattle was raised or slaughtered.

Stihl chainsaws are manufactured in the United States and China. According to Stihl the production quality is the same from either location.

Husqvarna chainsaws come from many countries. The company has facilities and subsidiaries in Sweden, France, Germany, United States and China. Poulan, Jonsered and McCulloch are all part of the Husqvarna Group.

ECHO chainsaws have manufacturing plants include Japan; Shenzhen, China and United States.

Makita is based in Japan, operates factories in Brazil, China, Mexico, Romania, the United Kingdom, Germany, Dubai, Rwanda, and the United States.

 

[xyz123]

Stihl bigger pro saws made in Germany with foreign and domestic parts. Only the smaller stuff like 60cc range down assembled at VA US.

1 at the beginning of the serial number indicates the unit was
manufactured in Germany

2 and 5 would indicate the unit was manufactured in the United States

3 represents Brazil

8 represents China

Here is a Brazil made 660 and 260 still being made today and get be bought.
See that 3

 

[Hay Dude]

It’s no big news that China manufactures almost everything. The fact that they do manufacture almost everything now is what should should be disturbing.

What would be nice is if there was just a little teensy weensy bit of manufacturing in the USA?

It’s no surprise that some people buy products from not just a sense of what is cheaper, but also who makes it, do they play by the rules of the rest of the world community, etc.

Sometimes you can’t avoid buying from people/places you don’t like. It may be the cheapest, or it may be no reason at all. Heck, some people hate German or Japanese companies….

 

[5030]

The difference between 'Chinese made' and Chinese made' lies 100% in the oversight. If it's made in China with strict oversight, it will be 'almost' as good as the American or European made counterpart.

Good example is cordless, battery operated power tools. Milwaukee and Dewalt are made in China for the most part, but with strict oversight. HF battery powered tools are also produced on the same production lines but in the past with minimal oversight, which has changed in the past 5 years, hence the HF tools are as good as the Milwaukee or Dewalt counterparts for the most part and the prices of them reflect that oversight.

Having said that, if the Chinese are left to their own devices, ie: no oversight, their products tend to be junk and that falls into the realm of cheap chainsaws among other products.

Far as the comment about N plants, I don't consider lowest bidder built N plants to be all that good anyway, especially the boiling water reactors built by Babcock and Wilcox but that is for another time and really has nothing to do with chainsaws.

 

[xyz123]

My USA Ohio made Rocky duty boots moved to China many years ago. I prided myself in making that trip when needing boots.
Last time there. I bought one last pair of each. The USA made ones were 150 and the China ones were 60. Both bought at Rocky shop in Ohio.
China one lasted longer then US made one I hate to say.

But IMHO it all has to do with the rich CEO's etc getting richer lining their pockets. Has to do with profits to be made nothing more. JMO.

 

[Hay Dude]

My USA Ohio made Rocky duty boots moved to China many years ago. I prided myself in making that trip when needing boots.
Last time there. I bought one last pair of each. The USA made ones were 150 and the China ones were 60. Both bought at Rocky shop in Ohio.
China one lasted longer then US made one I hate to say.

But IMHO it all has to do with the rich CEO's etc getting richer lining their pockets. Has to do with profits to be made nothing more. JMO.

You are right. China is merely a place where we can manufacture what was once made in USA in a much cheaper place. As far as the stuff made by Chinese companies go, I am “out”. Won’t buy unless no other choice.

I guess I have mixed feelings about non-chinese companies manufacturing in China. Americans loose jobs, the middle class shrinks, we loose our edge and efficiency at building things, etc. All that and a small handful of people get wealthier while the great unwashed loose more and more job opportunities.

Really makes you wonder how the death spiral we are in will finally turn out.

 

[xyz123]

You are right. China is merely a place where we can manufacture what was once made in USA in a much cheaper place. As far as the stuff made by Chinese companies go, I am “out”. Won’t buy unless no other choice.

I guess I have mixed feelings about non-chinese companies manufacturing in China. Americans loose jobs, the middle class shrinks, we loose our edge and efficiency at building things, etc. All that and a small handful of people get wealthier while the great unwashed loose more and more job opportunities.

Really makes you wonder how the death spiral we are in will finally turn out.

When covid hit thats when some woke up because of shortages of getting parts from abroad.
Like all our chips for our cars etc come from China etc. Why there would be rows of them stored in fields and parking lots.

Why we now have a monster chip factory being built south of me.

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