Cedar siding question for new barn

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I'm in process of building a new barn. I'm looking at white pine vs cedar siding. I know cedar is better but limited supply in Ohio I think. Anyone know the cost to have siding shipped in and is it worth it over white pine? Thinking of doing board and batten or just using a vertical 6 or 8" channel lock version. Barn will be 10' high and 40x70 with 12' shed.

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I think homedepot/lowes has cedar boards, you may want to check that out if doing board and batten.
 
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I'm in process of building a new barn. I'm looking at white pine vs cedar siding. I know cedar is better but limited supply in Ohio I think. Anyone know the cost to have siding shipped in and is it worth it over white pine? Thinking of doing board and batten or just using a vertical 6 or 8" channel lock version. Barn will be 10' high and 40x70 with 12' shed.

Thank you

I can't imagine the cost of doing cedar boards- and I would be surprised if you could get any quantity in Lowes or Home Depot. No doubt better than pine but unless you are Warren Buffet,
you won't do it. IMO, go with pine and if you can pre prime the boards before you put them on. Also, keep them high enough out of the splash zone and for sure you don't want any ground contact. If you have to run a horizontal band of pressure treated at ground level and then install a drip edge on top of that so your vertical pine boards sit on the drip edge.
 
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What about vertical Hardiplank board and batten?
 
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Pine would be my choice, just based on cost. Keep it dry and it will last a long time.
 
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So if I paint it does that help make it more bug resistant?
 
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Unless it's an aesthetics thing, it's hard to beat the cost of metal with wood. You'd have to buy and paint your wood for under (about) $.75/board foot and continue painting forever. I favor the looks of wood myself, and it's just a "sucky" choice to have to make. But between repainting, bugs, and rot concerns, I go with the metal.
 
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So if I paint it does that help make it more bug resistant?

I recommend stain over paint. It won't peal. We had a 2 story house all vertical lap pine 1x12.
We eventually, after 20 yrs, covered it all with Hardiplank because of some rot and a lot of warping and gaps.

We still got some ants and termites....
 
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I don't have hemlock in my area so figured if I'm shipping in cedar might be best. As for treated pine that's a good idea but not sure of cost vs cedar. Anyone know?
 
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By the way I just hate metal looking buildings. No offense as I know it's the best but I just can't get by the look and feel. I've tried to convince myself for almost 3 years now and just can't do it so decided to hit the start button and move on with wood. Maybe after I see all the issues I will change my mind a few years down the road. Lol
 
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I don't have hemlock in my area so figured if I'm shipping in cedar might be best. As for treated pine that's a good idea but not sure of cost vs cedar. Anyone know?
If by "treated pine" you mean pressure treated southern yellow pine, I say forget that. IMO it tends to warp when you try using it as siding.

As someone else suggested, pine siding, with a good stain vs. paint will give you a reasonably cost effective siding.
 
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Don't forget carpenter bees.
They love my cedar
 
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Check with some of the lumber mills in Ohio. There are plenty of Amish barns being built, with native rough sawn hardwood siding. I would start with them.
 
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I replaced the front of my horse barn with rough sawn Poplar from the local mill 1x12 board with 1x3 batten after 1 year it still looking good, Going to replace the rest with metal siding this fall. Wanted the look of a wood barn on the front.
 
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I've also seen board-and-batten sides, with a clapboard front and shakes above on the gable...
 
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CHA pole barns (out of PA) used white pine board/batten siding on my barn, and it was really nice wood. Stable with a tight grain and well seasoned, so it cut and nailed very nicely (don't recall a single piece splitting on us). For doors I just did a lap joint, and the joints have stayed nice and tight. I'd say it's some of the nicest softwood I have worked with in a long time.

I don't know the source, but Carter lumber (also in PA) delivered the siding, so they would know. I may still have one of the tarps that covered the stack and will check to see if it has more info. The boards are about 9-1/4" wide, about 3/4" thick, and have one side with a milled "rough" finish. It takes stain very well. I am about halfway done staining it with Sherwin-Williams Woodscapes stain, in red.

IMG_4618.jpg
 
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By the way, you can greatly increase the rot resistance of wood siding by putting a 12-15 degree slope on top of any horizontal trim piece and caulking the joint where it meets the siding. I did that on the middle and bottom cross pieces on the doors. It's not really noticeable, but prevents water from collecting and getting in the joint.
 
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CHA pole barns (out of PA) used white pine board/batten siding on my barn, and it was really nice wood. Stable with a tight grain and well seasoned, so it cut and nailed very nicely (don't recall a single piece splitting on us). For doors I just did a lap joint, and the joints have stayed nice and tight. I'd say it's some of the nicest softwood I have worked with in a long time. I don't know the source, but Carter lumber (also in PA) delivered the siding, so they would know. I may still have one of the tarps that covered the stack and will check to see if it has more info. The boards are about 9-1/4" wide, about 3/4" thick, and have one side with a milled "rough" finish. It takes stain very well. I am about halfway done staining it with Sherwin-Williams Woodscapes stain, in red. <img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/files/projects/386970-cedar-siding-question-new-barn-img_4618-jpg"/>


That looks great. My guy wants to use rough cut pine so may just proceed with that route. Thanks
 

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