Can you still pull off a geared tractor and crank it?

   / Can you still pull off a geared tractor and crank it?
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#21  
So a mechanical shuttle transmission with a dry clutch, to shuttle I'm assuming you clutch/stop/select forward or reverse then let your clutch out to move.
Correct.
 
   / Can you still pull off a geared tractor and crank it? #22  
My Kioti, is not hyd trans, has I think they say 12 gears. I have a forward/reverse lever mechanical it appears in the dash area, then l/m/h range selector followed by the 1-4 gears. The clutch appears to me to be mechanical, but honestly never looked for the hydraulic reservoir if indeed its a hydraulic clutch.
Hydraulic clutch & clutch controlled by a master & slave cylinders are 2 different type of clutches.

Full hydraulic clutch such as Permaclutch in my JD 4255 can't be tow started while master/slave cylinder operated clutch can be tow started if no other part of trans is hydraulically operated
 
   / Can you still pull off a geared tractor and crank it? #23  
Many of the newer ones will not keep the transmissions engaged to pull start. Most of the power shift and power shuttle will not tow start.
The mechanical geared transmissions and dry clutched tractors will pull start, if it has an electrical fuel shutoff a jump pak or good battery will still be required.
Electric fuel pump as you mentioned Lou, that was what I was wondering about. No juice, no fuel. Along with the newer transmissions.
 
   / Can you still pull off a geared tractor and crank it? #24  
Not an HST nor a computer controlled tractor, but certainly a geared tractor with mechanical injection. I've started both my M's like that in the past. Even bump started them when facing downhill by just rolling.
Your M9000's must have Sync-shuttle(mechanical) not hyd-shuttle if you can tow start their engines.
 
   / Can you still pull off a geared tractor and crank it? #25  
I only hope I never have to find out.
 
   / Can you still pull off a geared tractor and crank it? #26  
Stop your tractor on a slope while in gear. If it rolls away, you can’t pull start it. If it stays in place but moves when you step on the clutch, you have a chance. But most engines with common rail injection need a minimum voltage to trigger, but many were electronically controlled before common rail. One of mine needed 160 engine rpm before the injectors would inject.
 
   / Can you still pull off a geared tractor and crank it? #27  
My M7040 with hyd shuttle(reverser) will roll off if left in gear, shuttle lever in forward position if parking brake isn't applied or frt end loader bucket/bale spear isn't sitting on the ground & I'll bet your M9000's are identical!!!!!
Hmmm, my parking brake hasn't been set in years and my M7040 has never rolled an inch. However that might have something to do with my property being dead level FLAT! That is good information to remember if I ever take it anywhere.
David from jax
 
   / Can you still pull off a geared tractor and crank it? #28  
Hmmm, my parking brake hasn't been set in years and my M7040 has never rolled an inch. However that might have something to do with my property being dead level FLAT! That is good information to remember if I ever take it anywhere.
David from jax
So does your M7040 have hyd or syc shuttle? Sync shuttle rear wheels won't roll if trans, traction clutch & reverser are all engaged until tow chain/strap is tightened sufficiently.
 
   / Can you still pull off a geared tractor and crank it? #29  
Hmmm, my parking brake hasn't been set in years and my M7040 has never rolled an inch. However that might have something to do with my property being dead level FLAT! That is good information to remember if I ever take it anywhere.
David from jax
Flatlander_
 
   / Can you still pull off a geared tractor and crank it? #30  
Saw a Kubota L3600 for sale and the guy said he had no key for it so the price was low. It was a regular gear-drive with mechanical injectors. With one rear wheel jacked up an inch off the ground and trans in 4th, just pulling on the top of the lifted tire would start it right up.
 

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