Camp property found, now updates.

[dodge man]

This local 2023 JD is still FS at 60K with many aseccories. Suppose He'd get mad if I offed him 45K? View attachment 4137977

Get mad offering that? I doubt it but insulted maybe. They may say yes but will most likely make a counter offer.

 

[ning]

Considering that 2023 JD needs different tires (and thus, wheels, most likely) for your use (in the sticks... and sticks in the tires if they're not stout), it's not worth the same to you as to another person who'd be happy or at least ok with the turfs. You don't have to offer what it's worth to someone else, you just offer what it's worth to you. Worst they can do is say no; you're not responsible for their emotional reaction (getting offended or whatever). They can flip out and call their mom or whatever, it's not your concern. This is purely business, and since you're not going to have any further involvement with the seller past the transaction, it's all about getting yourself the best deal, or no deal.

In your situation - going into the sticks - I'd strongly consider the real price of the tractor (acquisition costs plus cost to make it ready for your work) and not focus on finding a price you think would be acceptable to the seller.

 

[dodge man]

Those might be R14 tires on that JD in the picture. Maybe not as good as ag tires in the mud but suppose to be good overall and maybe really good in the snow.

 

[ArlyA]

Looks like the closing on Friday is still a go and we're meeting the owner on Monday the 13th out there.. Have 100 questions for him.

 

[hayden]

This local 2023 JD is still FS at 60K with many aseccories. Suppose He'd get mad if I offed him 45K? View attachment 4137977

So what if he does. I'd offer what it's worth to you. My only hesitation on that tractor would be the turf/snow tires. If the same rims can accept R1 ag tires then changing tires is probably a couple thousand $$. If you have to change rims and disks, then it's probably another $1500-$2000.

Also keep in mind that this is probably the best time of year to buy a tractor, and spring will be the worst.

 

[airbiscuit]

The R14s will be just fine. Better traction than R4s, better puncture resistance than R1s.

 

[Snobdds]

the tires on it are fine. Those are not turf tires.

 

[ning]

the tires on it are fine. Those are not turf tires.

Good point, seems like the last pic I saw of the JD was the turf tire'd one. Those look fantastic; some day when my R4's die / next tractor I think I'd prefer R14's.

 

[shooterdon]

Read the room, dude.

The guy loves weed wacking.

Actually Snobdds is giving Arly good advice. Not what Arly wants to hear but….

And a lot depends on the wife. Does she enjoy that kind of work and is ok with taking months getting the road in decent shape? Spending every weekend doing camp projects is not for everyone.

But one size does not fit all. Spending two months getting the road in shape is how Arly has fun. For Snobbds and me, it would be a chore.

 

[ArlyA]

Get mad offering that? I doubt it but insulted maybe. They may say yes but will most likely make a counter offer.

I offered him 45K and suggested he could make a counter offers. He said "I can keep it". Seems we are the only ones who had made him an offer. He was asking 60K.

 

[kenmbz]

I offered him 45K and suggested he could make a counter offers. He said "I can keep it". Seems we are the only ones who had made him an offer. He was asking 60K.

oh, well, was worth a try.

 

[shooterdon]

I offered him 45K and suggested he could make a counter offers. He said "I can keep it". Seems we are the only ones who had made him an offer. He was asking 60K.

Unless it comes with a lot of attachments you need/want, that is a huge chunk of change.

My neighbor just bought a cabbed TYM T25 with front blower, and flail mower for $28k and IIRC 4% financing.

You can get all the heavy work contracted for a lot less than $15k and have a new tractor with a 2 year bumper to bumper warranty and 3000 hour powertrain warranty.

I nearly bought the T25 myself but stayed with the LS for now. I was impressed with the little machine and told my neighbor about it. After he checked out the orange and green options he got the T25.

Plus, being under 25HP it has no emissions crap to deal with as the hours pile on. In fact, my concern about future emission system problems is one major reason I looked at trading the LS. And at 75, I think the 3000 hour powertrain warranty might be enough...LOL

Edited to add:
He got 0% financing.

 

[airbiscuit]

I'll start by saying I'm wrong on this post, but I prefer having an open air tractor (non cabbed). For 98% of what I do, I like being out in the open air. When it's cold, I dress for it (same as for snowmobiling). I like the feel of the great outdoors.

Now if i lived where it was often 90 +, I'd want the air conditioning.

 

[EscapedSuburbia]

I'm a tractor newbie so take this with a grain of salt, but my property has a lot of trees I need to work around and I had to fold the ROPS to avoid low branches. I don't think a cab would survive long. I wonder if ArlyA is in a similar situation. Fortunately we don't get much snow here but I've never minded bundling up to move snow. It does get hot here in the summer but since I'm mostly under shade trees it doesn't bother me.

 

[mjonesnh]

I'll start by saying I'm wrong on this post, but I prefer having an open air tractor (non cabbed). For 98% of what I do, I like being out in the open air. When it's cold, I dress for it (same as for snowmobiling). I like the feel of the great outdoors.

Now if i lived where it was often 90 +, I'd want the air conditioning.

Open air tractor only option for my farm. Lots of trees to mow under, have to go around every few years with pole saw as I did a few months ago or I get whacked in head with new growth. No way a cab would survive, Still have to fold ROPS down in places just to get under trees with bush hog

 

[shooterdon]

I agree with Arly on the desirability of a cabbed tractor for the UP of Michigan.

When using a blower, and he will have a lot snow to deal with, it makes the job a lot more pleasant. Not just due to the cold but the blown snow coming back at you.

And when the bugs are thick, a cab with air conditioning is a joy if you are not constantly getting on and off the machine.

Where he will regret it is in the woods. I have done a bit of damage when working around trees. Nothing serious but there is an added amount of care needed.

There is no perfect machine so you need to pick the machine that does most of the jobs as well, comfortably and safely as possible.

I have inherited a bit of money and instead of trading the LS, I may add the T25. I don’t really need it but it would be perfect for 2/3’s of the work I do. Who knows, after using it for a while I may find it is OK for the other 1/3 of the tasks.

 

[MossRoad]

I agree with a cabbed tractor for maintaining land that's already cleared. Cool in summer if it has air, warm in winter. However, I had a cabbed tractor that I used to clear our property. 75% of the glass got cracked over time, mirrors bent, etc. Just be aware that until you open up roads with enough clearance for the cab, watch out for branches springing off the loader and smacking the glass, and similar when going in reverse.

 

[ArlyA]

Who here who says "you don't need NO stink'n cab" blows snow over the winter?

 

[MossRoad]

Who here who says "you don't need NO stink'n cab" blows snow over the winter?

Young guys.

 

[airbiscuit]

I have a Rear PULL snowblower, so no worries!