Skipholiday
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Dealer is replacing my draft arms also, they referred to the solution #73813. The new part# is LVA803085.
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Thanks
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prosperity
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Thanks for the info and numbers -
Going to hammer my dealer about it tomorrow.
Going to hammer my dealer about it tomorrow.
OP
tomd999
Platinum Member
Hi all,
Update: Over a month now since I was told the replacement lift arms were "ordered" through the DM under warranty coverage.
Starting to get the feeling that Deere won't cover this after all. Looks like GN and myself are in the same "on order" limbo.
Tom
Update: Over a month now since I was told the replacement lift arms were "ordered" through the DM under warranty coverage.
Starting to get the feeling that Deere won't cover this after all. Looks like GN and myself are in the same "on order" limbo.
Tom
tomd999 said:Hi all,
Update: Over a month now since I was told the replacement lift arms were "ordered" through the DM under warranty coverage.
Starting to get the feeling that Deere won't cover this after all. Looks like GN and myself are in the same "on order" limbo.
Tom
Hi tomd999,
the regional rep from JD Corporate told me himself they are honouring the replacement parts.. and he did say "July".. which is probably why my dealer tells me they are not available yet. We'll see what happens this month.
Good luck on your end!
GN
flyngti
Silver Member
Good job guys. Sometimes it takes this kind of grass-roots effort to force large companies to "do the right thing."
I gotta mention that the factory rep. I'm dealing with suggested we order the arms from the 2720 to replace mine on my 2520. He said he did this because they are available more quickly and are apparently identical to the replacement arms many have mentioned in this thread. I haven't checked the part numbers to compare but I'll see if I get mine very quickly. One should normally get a JD part in a couple of days max.
Last Saturday, Deere told my dealer that my links were pulled from another tractor. The dealer received my replacement links and a new 2520 with the old style links with an I owe you for the new links. I think everyone will get the new links, I don't think that Deere has enough for the DTEC and the new tractors.
hemiguy
Silver Member
I see there are currently a few different threads going on this subject. Looks like a couple of weeks since anyone posted. Any new developments out there, like maybe JD decided to fix this right (maybe new 3PT arms for everyone)? Anyway, my local service manager says he will do his best to get the issue fixed for me. He gave me a recent version of the 73813 Tech Bulletin (June 17, 2008). It has this text at the bottom now:
"Additional Information:
The 2520 draft arms were designed around using standard category 1 implement. If using a standard cat 1 implement, you should not have interference of the draft arms. If the implement is wider than standard cat 1 implement, installing the 2720 draft arms (LVA803085) will provide more draft arm clearance."
So what is the measurement range for standard cat 1 implement end width? I've probably seen some numbers before but anybody know the "official" numbers? I know this is really BS because folks are having problems with Deere/Frontier attachments as well as other brands. Just for grins I measured my 4 attachments and they range from 23" to 30" with all having some wiggle room within that range.
Also, my rear R4 wheel valve stems are pointed out, so does this have them in the wide setting already? Dealer says yes, but I would like to be certain. I have two 60lb weights on each wheel so i'm not going to swap them unless I'm certain it might help a little (and I know you only gain about 1/2" clearance from narrow to wide on the 2520).
Of course everything else checks out OK on the original 3pt arms installed properly so I'm going to call the dealer again tomorrow and ask what he can do next to get me a pair of the 2720 arms. Looks like at least a couple of you have them already.
"Additional Information:
The 2520 draft arms were designed around using standard category 1 implement. If using a standard cat 1 implement, you should not have interference of the draft arms. If the implement is wider than standard cat 1 implement, installing the 2720 draft arms (LVA803085) will provide more draft arm clearance."
So what is the measurement range for standard cat 1 implement end width? I've probably seen some numbers before but anybody know the "official" numbers? I know this is really BS because folks are having problems with Deere/Frontier attachments as well as other brands. Just for grins I measured my 4 attachments and they range from 23" to 30" with all having some wiggle room within that range.
Also, my rear R4 wheel valve stems are pointed out, so does this have them in the wide setting already? Dealer says yes, but I would like to be certain. I have two 60lb weights on each wheel so i'm not going to swap them unless I'm certain it might help a little (and I know you only gain about 1/2" clearance from narrow to wide on the 2520).
Of course everything else checks out OK on the original 3pt arms installed properly so I'm going to call the dealer again tomorrow and ask what he can do next to get me a pair of the 2720 arms. Looks like at least a couple of you have them already.
kennyd
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Most are having the problem even when the I-Match is installed...Especially the the 3PH is raise to the full height.
HERE is link to the ASAE standard for Quick hitches, As far as a "standard" width...there was never really as "standard" used-the spacing was all over the map witch causes grief to those who are now trying to use quick-hitches
spc
Member
My dealer replaced my arms last week at no charge. They first required that I bring the tractor to them and per the current service bulletin, they checked that the wheels were set to wide (they werent) and that the draft arms were in the correct holes (they were) etc.
When I dropped off my tractor, I also took my Landpride box blade. This is the largest implement I have and rubs the most. After setting the tires to wide, there was still rub when the 3pt was all the way up. At that point there was no argument from the dealer. They ordered the arms which came in within two days and had them on my tractor shortly after that. When I picked it up the amount on the work order was $600+. The cost to me was $0.
It appears to me that there isnt going to be a general replacement of the arms for everyone, no questions asked. I think the policy is going to be that you will have to prove that your particular tractor is having the problem with the implements you use and that even with the tires to wide etc, you are still having tire rub. Then Deere may replace the arms.
PS - the new arms certainly fix the problem. I now have no rub on any of my implements.
When I dropped off my tractor, I also took my Landpride box blade. This is the largest implement I have and rubs the most. After setting the tires to wide, there was still rub when the 3pt was all the way up. At that point there was no argument from the dealer. They ordered the arms which came in within two days and had them on my tractor shortly after that. When I picked it up the amount on the work order was $600+. The cost to me was $0.
It appears to me that there isnt going to be a general replacement of the arms for everyone, no questions asked. I think the policy is going to be that you will have to prove that your particular tractor is having the problem with the implements you use and that even with the tires to wide etc, you are still having tire rub. Then Deere may replace the arms.
PS - the new arms certainly fix the problem. I now have no rub on any of my implements.
It seems that Deere doesn't want to give out the new style links without putting the customer through a bunch of BS. This is what I emailed my dealer and when I went to pickup my tractor it had the new arms on it. I don't know if this helped in getting the new style arms but I do know it's hard to argue with numbers.
JD 2520 - 3 Point Hitch measurements
Narrow to Wide setting adds 2 3/8 or 60mm overall.
Rockshaft pos| Dist from Ground to cl of hole | Max inside distance between arms
....1.............|....9 3/4..............................|....33 3/8
....4.............|....15 3/4.............................|....32 1/2
....6.............|....20 3/4.............................|....30 3/4
....8.............|....25 3/8.............................|....29 5/8
....9.............|....28 1/4.............................|....28 1/2
Draft link is 1.4 thick @ end +
.5 hole for Lynch pin +
.5 material thickness for end of attaching pin.
= 2.4 minimum length for attaching pin
ASAE, ISO 730-1:1994 Standards for Category 1 3PH
Maximum distance between pins for Category 1 is 26.9
Adding these two gives you the minimum distance between the inside arms
26.9 + 2.4 = 29.3
Therefore, the 2520 w/ tires set wide is considered a limited category 1 by ASAE Standards.
I am going by the definition of "limited cat 1" = not meeting the cat 1 spec of 16.9" for the full range of motion.
My opinion is that this is why some have problems and some don't. If you are hooking up mowers, small back blades and rakes, you tend to hookup lower where the arms will open wider and you will never know. When you hook up a plow you need the arms higher and during transporting it may be all the way up and this is when you will notice. The other time you may notice is if you load your tractor with implement onto a trailer. The implement will need to be all the way up as to not drag when going up the ramps.
JD 2520 - 3 Point Hitch measurements
Narrow to Wide setting adds 2 3/8 or 60mm overall.
Rockshaft pos| Dist from Ground to cl of hole | Max inside distance between arms
....1.............|....9 3/4..............................|....33 3/8
....4.............|....15 3/4.............................|....32 1/2
....6.............|....20 3/4.............................|....30 3/4
....8.............|....25 3/8.............................|....29 5/8
....9.............|....28 1/4.............................|....28 1/2
Draft link is 1.4 thick @ end +
.5 hole for Lynch pin +
.5 material thickness for end of attaching pin.
= 2.4 minimum length for attaching pin
ASAE, ISO 730-1:1994 Standards for Category 1 3PH
Maximum distance between pins for Category 1 is 26.9
Adding these two gives you the minimum distance between the inside arms
26.9 + 2.4 = 29.3
Therefore, the 2520 w/ tires set wide is considered a limited category 1 by ASAE Standards.
I am going by the definition of "limited cat 1" = not meeting the cat 1 spec of 16.9" for the full range of motion.
My opinion is that this is why some have problems and some don't. If you are hooking up mowers, small back blades and rakes, you tend to hookup lower where the arms will open wider and you will never know. When you hook up a plow you need the arms higher and during transporting it may be all the way up and this is when you will notice. The other time you may notice is if you load your tractor with implement onto a trailer. The implement will need to be all the way up as to not drag when going up the ramps.
OP
tomd999
Platinum Member
Hiya,
Well, they came in and they are on! The calls worked! My faith in the big green is restored.
Here's the pictures, there is 3" between tire and arm when all the way down. (I didn't measure it all the way up but there has to be more than before) I tried to take a picture with a meter stick but the batteries died as I pressed the button, sorry metric system guys and gals.
Has anyone checked the overall length of the replacement arms? It may be an optical delusion but they look longer. I'm wondering if PTO shafts are long enough to have proper slide engagement at full extension.
Tom
Well, they came in and they are on! The calls worked! My faith in the big green is restored.
Here's the pictures, there is 3" between tire and arm when all the way down. (I didn't measure it all the way up but there has to be more than before) I tried to take a picture with a meter stick but the batteries died as I pressed the button, sorry metric system guys and gals.
Has anyone checked the overall length of the replacement arms? It may be an optical delusion but they look longer. I'm wondering if PTO shafts are long enough to have proper slide engagement at full extension.
Tom
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It sounds like most of you are getting this fixed. I don't have mine yet, my dealer has them on order but I haven't heard from him yet. Not unusual, when the owner orders anything for me I usually have to calling him before he calls me. If his parts department orders it I get a call when it's in. I'll call next week.
seldridge279
Member
Had my 2520 in for 50 hour service and the arms came in so the dealer is replacing them for me.
I decided to have the tires foamed after multiple flats on the front including running a pencil sized stick through the left front sidewall. Dealer said it would void the warrenty because of the increased load on the drive train. But since I only had 2 months left and he had just done a top to bottom inspection of my machine I decided to go for it.
I decided to have the tires foamed after multiple flats on the front including running a pencil sized stick through the left front sidewall. Dealer said it would void the warrenty because of the increased load on the drive train. But since I only had 2 months left and he had just done a top to bottom inspection of my machine I decided to go for it.
Just heard today that mine finally are in and I just need to find time to go have them installed. I'm one step closer and I hope I don't run into any problems. The dealer has not asked me to provide any proof that I have a problem. Truth is that depending upon what you call a problem he could give me an argument. With my JD back blade and rotary cutter installed I get about 1/4 inch clearance on each side. If you could keep the sway adjusted tight it would theoretically work but they don't stay that tight and I'll never get chains on. So I'm still not counting this done until they are on my machine and I got her back home.
Gordnovo, did you get yours without a hitch (pardon the pun)?
Gordnovo, did you get yours without a hitch (pardon the pun)?
When my dealer had my tractor for other problems I asked about the draft arms. They measured several different implements that were cat 1. He determined that they would not fit with the existing arms and ordered replacements. It was covered under warranty . The replacement arms are on the tractor but I have not attached anything to it yet.
Still have the deck issue to deal with
. The replacement arms are on the tractor but I have not attached anything to it yet. Still have the deck issue to deal with
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