BX24 wheels on BX23?

[Riptide23]

Was considering a second set of wheels and tires for future projects, and was wondering about puttin' a set of BX24 rims and tires on my BX23. Apparently they fit, as I saw a picture somewhere here where someone did it...

My question is, with regards to maintaining proper "lead" between the front and rear wheels in 4WD, would the BX24 wheels booger up my machine? I guess it would depend on whether the two machines were geared the same.

TIA, Pat

 

[lp333]

... to maintaining proper "lead" between the front and rear wheels in 4WD ...

To the best of my knowledge, the ratio ( front / back ) of tire circumferences is the same for both models.

 

[Berniep]

The consensus seems to be that the BX 24 R4 tires are the same rolling diameter as stock BX23 tires. The front rims are different and maybe the rear ones as well so you end up having to buy both rims and tires. The stock ratio is maintained. The BX24 front tires will hit the mower deck on the BX23 in full lock. But I don't even have a mower deck so this wont be a problem for me when I get done swiss cheesing the stock ag tires on my 23. I had to repair a bad puncture on a rear tire and the inside looked like a porcupine(ok maybe and exaggeration) with all the honey locust thorns sticking through. Cleaning the slime off the area to be patched was a chore.

 

[Kevin Beitz]

Whats the difference ?? Does the BX 24 rims stick out more ???

 

[srossman]

Whats the difference ?? Does the BX 24 rims stick out more ???

The BX 24 tires have a shorter sidewall than the bx 23. Therefore since both wheels have the same circumference, the rims on the bx 24 will be larger than the ones on the bx23. There have been a few posts on here about people changing there tires on the bx 23 to the bx 24 without an problems, so I'm planning on taking the same route as Berniep and when I can't get another plug into the bx tires I'll go and buy a new set of rims and wheels with the bx24 rubber.

-Scot

 

[Volfandt]

As been said, The front rims on the BX24 are taller than the earlier BX23 but the tires are lower profile which gives "almost" the same overall height. The newer BX24 tires being slightly taller causes then to contact the MMM at full turn.
But the difference isn't enough to offset the necessary front to rear 4WD ratios.

I recently bought a practically new set of BX2200 turf tires/wheels off of a fellow that bought and mounted the new BX2350/BX24 R4's on his BX2200. He said he had no problems with mounting them and that he just avoids hard "maxed" out turns.
He likes his R4's and I likes the turfs

I could be wrong but I still don't think you can get R4 tires for the BX23 sized wheels.

 

[drtydeed]

As stated by other posters, if the overall circumference is the same on both the BX23 and 24, then there should be no issue (they shouldn't contact the mower deck.) You can decrease the steering limit by adjusting the lenght of the stopper bolt if there was contact with the mower deck at full lock position.

Personally, I do not care much for the stock BX23 front tire/wheel configuration. I think that there is too much sidewall and not enough rim for my application. Since I use my machine for mowing and for commercial landscaping, I find that I am constantly adjusting front air pressures between jobs. Mowing, I deflate fronts to approx 14 psi. For my landscaping tasks (with loader and BH) I need to up them to at least 22 psi. I would think that the "lower sidewalls) on BX24 rims my be a bit stiffer and would help alleviate the frequent "air adjustments" that I have to make.

Riptide, please post your results if, in fact, you do install the new wheels. I would be very interested in your results.

 

[KeithInSpace]

Concur with Mr. Drtydeed...not that I go through frequent air adjustments, I just find that the tires squish way too much when you are at, or slightly over, capacity with the FEL. I have had an extreme load traversing a side slope (carrying low with hand on the lever, etc.) and just hated that the rim was "uncentered" from the tread since the ground was holding the tread one way and the weight of the tractor was rolling the tire on itself.

Not that I've ever had a problem, but that I even need to think about it is a problem for me...sometimes...not sure if it is enough of a problem to invest in new rims and tires ahead of schedule.

This is what I call a "2% problem". If I have the problem only 2% of the time, do I care enough to throw money at fixing it? Usually not. Unless the solution is really pretty and shiny. And has either a Diesel or a V8.

 

[drtydeed]

Unless the solution is really pretty and shiny.

New tires and wheels are "pretty and shiny" aren't they?

 

[ndnparts]

And pretty cheap too! I bought my BX24 with R4's, but decided I needed Turfs. The wheel/tires assemblies are only $51 for the front and $91 for rear (each, of course). Very reasonable pricing on these items. Unless you were to happen across a used set locally, it would never pencil out to buy used ones and have them shipped when compared to the new ones. Stan

New tires and wheels are "pretty and shiny" aren't they?

 

[Riptide23]

Thanks for the insight, Volfandt. I was wondering why I couldn't find R4's. Hence my desire to get a second set of wheels for my lawn rehab.

I don't plan to mount a mower deck just yet, at least during the rehab, so the contact issue shouldn't be a problem. But thanks for the warning, everyone.

I hadn't priced them out yet, but around 300 bucks seems pretty reasonable. I see sets on eBay for 400, and figured that was the goin' rate...

Pat

 

[ultrarunner]

My Dealer said the 8" front BX23 wheels are no longer available and suggested I go with the BX24 style 10" front wheels...

Note, both tires have almost identical outside circumference from what I've been told.

Price has gone up a little too... Ball park $360 for a set of 4.

 

[Tom_H]

I bought my BX2200 with 2 full sets of wheels/tires: one turf, one ag. The turfs are available for a reduced price. If anyone is close enough to central CA to come get them or for shipping not to be a killer (is that even possible?) then PM me.

 

[ToolDad]

I have a BX2200. I have been wanting a set of R4's for a long time. Checked out this thread last year, and purchased a new set of BX24 R4's in January. Cost me ~$390 I think including shipping and tax. Believe it or not I did not get around to installing until tonight. Found a problem. The front axle spindles have a pilot diameter but the hole in the center of the wheel is just slightly smaller such that the wheel will not fit. Has anyone else experienced this, and how did you compesate for this problem? The only obvious solution seems to be to somehow grind the wheel ID slightly larger to where it fits. If so, the question is how best to accomplish. Really would appreciate some help on this one.

I have not yet checked the rear wheels to see if a similar situation exists. Anybody already know?

 

[Berniep]

Seems like I remember they were very tight but I was able to draw them on with the bolts. How much too small are they?

 

[ToolDad]

Well, now I am confused. I just measured the two bores and found the new wheel to be slightly larger (.010"-.015") than the old. Of course, I had ground the new wheel bore a little bit last night, though did not actually even remove all of the paint before I stopped to think about it. It was lat evening, but I know the new wheels did not fit and appeared to be maybe ~.050" to small. Will have to double check everything after work today. Will let you know what I find.

 

[bx24d]

Has anyone combined R4s in the front with Ags int he back (on a BX24) for winter plowing?

 

[ToolDad]

This is one of those times you wish you could delete your post. While at work today, I had an epiphany that made me realize the brainfart I had last night. Last evening I was focusing on the tread being oriented correctly. It never ocurred to me that the wheels also had an orientation requirement, but they do. Besides the obvious (valve stem that I did not look for) the lug holes are concave on one side and convex on the other, causing a protrusion on the one side (the side the lug bolts go). If you turn the wheels backwards, the protrusions act as standoffs to the spindle, THUS keeping the pilot hole from even contacting the spindle pilot. Turn the wheel around, and presto, the pilot hole contacts and fits perfectly over the spindle pilot.

Classic DUH moment!

 

[radioman]

that's ok . what is one man's blunder is a classroom full of TBN'ers learning what not to do! dont worry . at one time or another i may have to post something embarassing as well. until then!

 

[Berniep]

It is possible to put the rear tires on backwards and not notice it untill you go to check the air pressure.