BX2200 vs B2910
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woodstock
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You say you have a 16 HP tractor but is it a diesel. I had a 18 HP gas JD and I can tell you that my B7000 twin 14 HP diesel had much more power/Torque. It seemed almost double the power.
The BX2200 is amazingly powerful tractor. As far as the loder goes. I've tried lifting things that it couldn't and yes it would be nice if it could but I do know that a larger tractor would not have gotten far down our forest trails to even get a shot at some of the BX shores.
Howeeeever, I don't know anything about the B2910.
What tractor do you currently have?
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Winnipeg, Manitoba
2001 BX2200 (15 hrs) All Kubota FEL,Tiller, box blade, blower w/elec shute, 60 mid mt deck, Ag tires.
Grey market B7000 w/Tiller (120 hrs)
1984 JD 316 after 687 hrs.
The BX2200 is amazingly powerful tractor. As far as the loder goes. I've tried lifting things that it couldn't and yes it would be nice if it could but I do know that a larger tractor would not have gotten far down our forest trails to even get a shot at some of the BX shores.
Howeeeever, I don't know anything about the B2910.
What tractor do you currently have?
Winnipeg, Manitoba
2001 BX2200 (15 hrs) All Kubota FEL,Tiller, box blade, blower w/elec shute, 60 mid mt deck, Ag tires.
Grey market B7000 w/Tiller (120 hrs)
1984 JD 316 after 687 hrs.
NYTrainer
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Seems to me that is quite a range to decide upon. I could see if you narrowed it down to the BX 2200 or B7500 or even the 2410, but there is also a 2710 to consider too before you get to the 2910. I went through a similar process and, while I don't know what your needs are, I find the BX2200 quite capable of anything I can throw at it. The only way to decide is to try them out. It's always fun to see what these machines can do.
David
David
TresCrows
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Wow!, I do not think you are ready to buy anything just yet--stop--do not buy! Determine your needs and please do not compare a 22 horsepower BX or even the 18 horse version to a wimpy 16 horsepower lawnmower. They are in no way similar. Pulling power of a BX in 4WD is enough to pull/push a fleet of 16 horsepower box store tractors all day long if need be--simply no comparison possible. A 16 horsepower diesel Kubota tractor like a 7100 or 21 horse like the 7500 will have many times the pulling power of a lawnmower even if the lawnmower has a 25 horse engine. You don't really think those 25 horse Sears and Murrays really have the same power as a Kubota BX--now really--do you? I suggest you look at the 7100, both BX's and the 7500 and the 2410 and maybe even the smaller NH tractors--all many times more powerful than your 16 horse lawnmower! Oh, wimpy is a opinion, compared to my wimpy muscles and my rusted wheelbarrow it is not wimpy at all. Good luck with your tractor shopping. Pic is my wife playing with the tractor, it can lift two or three of those plus me and I am about 190 lbs. J
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Gfsimon
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rfisson,
Those were my choices as well, mainly because the dealers around here only had the BXs and B27/29s. I have 9 acres, 3 of which are grass. My main chores are grass cutting (if it ever rains again), snow moving, misc. loader stuff. The BX2200 would have been a great fit for the lawn, but didn't fit me (6'3", 220#). I also hope to someday move to a larger acerage and I wanted whatever tractor I purchase be able to handle that as well. I bought a B2910 and have no regrets. I also convinced myself that the price difference between the two didn't amount to much over the life of the tractor /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif.
The tractor came with folding ROPs which are taller than non folding, so I had to do some low branch trimming (which should have been done anyway), but other than that, the B2910 fits everyplace I want it to go with tons of power (for what I need it for anyway /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif).
Jerry
<font color=orange>SE Minnesota</font color=orange>
Those were my choices as well, mainly because the dealers around here only had the BXs and B27/29s. I have 9 acres, 3 of which are grass. My main chores are grass cutting (if it ever rains again), snow moving, misc. loader stuff. The BX2200 would have been a great fit for the lawn, but didn't fit me (6'3", 220#). I also hope to someday move to a larger acerage and I wanted whatever tractor I purchase be able to handle that as well. I bought a B2910 and have no regrets. I also convinced myself that the price difference between the two didn't amount to much over the life of the tractor /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif.
The tractor came with folding ROPs which are taller than non folding, so I had to do some low branch trimming (which should have been done anyway), but other than that, the B2910 fits everyplace I want it to go with tons of power (for what I need it for anyway /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif).
Jerry
<font color=orange>SE Minnesota</font color=orange>
I agree with the others the BX is a sub compact and the b2910 is the largest of the b. There is alot of difference in capacity between the two.
The best advice is what are you going to do with the tractor?
Kevin
The best advice is what are you going to do with the tractor?
Kevin
My 16Hp gas tractor was a bit stronger than usual in that it was a Gravely. If I could push it over, the Gravely would make chippings of it. A 60" mower that didn't mind tall (3') weeds, and a low range that was purely traction limited as there was not much that it couldn't pull....
BUT... No loader, no 3PH, and even though it weighs ~ 1,000#'s,limited traction makes it less than usefull in the Winter.
I want a FEL that can lift more than just a few bags worth of mulch, or push over more than a year old mulberry tree. Some add-on forks would make moving some things much easier...
Add to that a Front mount snowthrower, some wheel weights or Calcium in the tires... (turf tires.. we are mostly lawn)
A SMALL finish mover (belly or 3pt) that will fit through some of our smaller gates.
Will a BX do this or do I need the "weight" of a B2910?
BUT... No loader, no 3PH, and even though it weighs ~ 1,000#'s,limited traction makes it less than usefull in the Winter.
I want a FEL that can lift more than just a few bags worth of mulch, or push over more than a year old mulberry tree. Some add-on forks would make moving some things much easier...
Add to that a Front mount snowthrower, some wheel weights or Calcium in the tires... (turf tires.. we are mostly lawn)
A SMALL finish mover (belly or 3pt) that will fit through some of our smaller gates.
Will a BX do this or do I need the "weight" of a B2910?
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A BX can do all of that as long as your FEL "stuff" doesn't go over 500# or so. The BX will also get through smaller areas than a 2910. How wide are your gates? How big is your lot (did you answer that already? /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif)
Generally speaking the BX will be lighter and more maneuverable than the 2910. However, if you need to lift 900# of "stuff" in the FEL, you might be happier with a 2910.
The GlueGuy
Generally speaking the BX will be lighter and more maneuverable than the 2910. However, if you need to lift 900# of "stuff" in the FEL, you might be happier with a 2910.
The GlueGuy
woodstock
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Does it look anything like this?
If it does, then it is comparable to my JD 316 which is no comparison at all to the BX
Winnipeg, Manitoba
2001 BX2200 (15 hrs) All Kubota FEL,Tiller, box blade, blower w/elec shute, 60 mid mt deck, Ag tires.
Grey market B7000 w/Tiller (120 hrs)
1984 JD 316 after 687 hrs.
If it does, then it is comparable to my JD 316 which is no comparison at all to the BX
Winnipeg, Manitoba
2001 BX2200 (15 hrs) All Kubota FEL,Tiller, box blade, blower w/elec shute, 60 mid mt deck, Ag tires.
Grey market B7000 w/Tiller (120 hrs)
1984 JD 316 after 687 hrs.
TresCrows
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Not trying to be causing an argument but a Gravely is no match for a Kubota--the Gravely is a lawnmower styled tractor (not impressed with a Gravely) fairly light duty and not exactly common in my area. Not meant as a put down, bring that Gravely over and we will go at it. I am sure the BX can haul several around easily. Pretty dang sure of it. I have posted this pic and a similar one but I think perhaps you did not see it. Also, do not think I am trying to talk you out of a bigger tractor like a 7500, 2400 or 2900--just trying to provide relevant info to your decision and hoping whatever you get will be right for you and dang sure better than a Gravely. J
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TresCrows
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Sorry for a second post but the picture you gave of a Gravely lawnmower Woodstock is what I am thinking of for sure. Sorry I did not see it first but the site is slow to load tonight. Yeah, if that is a Gravely I will put money (not much--I am poor) on that I can drag at least 3 of them wimpering behind my BX in the dust. Could you imagine how many a 2910 could tow or mash flat.
Sorry, really not meaning to poke fun at your Gravely mower, those look like real nice units for lawn mowing with a good reputation for durability but you really will be happier with any Kubota utility tractor (UT) than a Gravely LT. Again, good luck with your research and kick me in the rear for being a smart alec. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif . J
Sorry, really not meaning to poke fun at your Gravely mower, those look like real nice units for lawn mowing with a good reputation for durability but you really will be happier with any Kubota utility tractor (UT) than a Gravely LT. Again, good luck with your research and kick me in the rear for being a smart alec. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif . J
this is how I look at it.
You've identified the range, now buy the big one.
Why? Won't the BX handel the job? of course it will, but if you can swing the $$$ then buy the biggest one you can use without it becoming a hinderence. Never met anyone who wished they'd gotten less of a tractor.
I have 3/4 an acre and I love my BX. Love it. It scares my neighbors in to cowering in their garages with their LT250's he he he! If I had some implementzs it would even be better. I can't wait till winter (who said that?) so I can plow snow!
Rogue
You've identified the range, now buy the big one.
Why? Won't the BX handel the job? of course it will, but if you can swing the $$$ then buy the biggest one you can use without it becoming a hinderence. Never met anyone who wished they'd gotten less of a tractor.
I have 3/4 an acre and I love my BX. Love it. It scares my neighbors in to cowering in their garages with their LT250's he he he! If I had some implementzs it would even be better. I can't wait till winter (who said that?) so I can plow snow!
Rogue
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Here's the Peter Principal of tractor selection: Tractor size grows until it's too much (or something like that)
Rather than looking at how big it needs to be, look at how big it CAN NOT BE.
What's you max spending ability?
What's the biggest it can physically be without having to build a new barn, prune every tree, remove every other tree, etc.
What's the heaviest is can be? Consider trailering needs, if any, and lawn compaction.
Then get the biggest tractor you can that doesn't exceed your limits. You won't regret it, and you won't be trading it in in 2 years. Lot's of people upgrade. Nobody downsizes.
Peter
Rather than looking at how big it needs to be, look at how big it CAN NOT BE.
What's you max spending ability?
What's the biggest it can physically be without having to build a new barn, prune every tree, remove every other tree, etc.
What's the heaviest is can be? Consider trailering needs, if any, and lawn compaction.
Then get the biggest tractor you can that doesn't exceed your limits. You won't regret it, and you won't be trading it in in 2 years. Lot's of people upgrade. Nobody downsizes.
Peter
JonLeonard
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I grew up running a gravely like that /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif It is quite powerful for its size. Even with its 12 hp engine, it would cut things these fancy new 25 hp ones wont touch. Shaft driven deck is nice and the new ones have optional hydraulics. There are third parties that offer FELs and Backhoes for them.
Problem is they cost about $7K here, for just a little more, you can get a small Kubota. I know I have put 1000+ hours on our gravely personally, and driving the BX2200 was amazing. Much more power, power steering, larger mowing deck, hydro transmission....the list goes on and on.
Simple fact is this: the gravely is a very heavy duty "lawn mower", nothing more. Tractors are in a different class.
As far as the BX2200 vs B2910 goes, the price difference between them is $9911 vs $16580. Just going by the list prices, you will pay $6669 more for the B2910, plus the additional costs for the larger mowing deck and other implements.
I would make sure that you have enough every-day type work to justify that kind of price difference.
Problem is they cost about $7K here, for just a little more, you can get a small Kubota. I know I have put 1000+ hours on our gravely personally, and driving the BX2200 was amazing. Much more power, power steering, larger mowing deck, hydro transmission....the list goes on and on.
Simple fact is this: the gravely is a very heavy duty "lawn mower", nothing more. Tractors are in a different class.
As far as the BX2200 vs B2910 goes, the price difference between them is $9911 vs $16580. Just going by the list prices, you will pay $6669 more for the B2910, plus the additional costs for the larger mowing deck and other implements.
I would make sure that you have enough every-day type work to justify that kind of price difference.
The Peter principal eh... ?
I wish I'd been told that ahead of time. I spent weeks reinventing the wheel to come to the same conclusion.
I call it the Rogue whale rule. If it looks feels and acts entirly to big for your needs, income and property, downsize one notch. repeat as necessary!
Rogue
I wish I'd been told that ahead of time. I spent weeks reinventing the wheel to come to the same conclusion.
I call it the Rogue whale rule. If it looks feels and acts entirly to big for your needs, income and property, downsize one notch. repeat as necessary!
Rogue
JonLeonard
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Now we have the Chaulkey "Cup" (read in mini-refrigerator with magnets here) and the Rogue "Whale Rule" /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
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Hi,
I was in a similar position last year...almost. I liked the BX2200, but wanted a backhoe. That put me in the regular B series. By the time I was done pricing the various models with the attachments I wanted, and knowing I would have this tractor for the rest of my life (I hope!), I felt the B2910 was the best way to go. I've never regretted my decision.
For reference, I'm on a 2/3 acre lot, with hardpan and rock soil. I use my B2910 as my digging machine. It has R4's, LA402 loader, Woods 7500 backhoe and Woods 1160 post hole auger. It's been a sweet machine and I'm thrilled with it. I haven't had any maneuverability problems with it.
In retrospect, any of the B models would have done what I needed. But I know a little voice in side of my head would have kept saying "...you should've gotten the bigger one, your should've gotten the bigger one". I guess I'm thankful they don't make a B3310! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
Good Luck,
Rick Jay
I was in a similar position last year...almost. I liked the BX2200, but wanted a backhoe. That put me in the regular B series. By the time I was done pricing the various models with the attachments I wanted, and knowing I would have this tractor for the rest of my life (I hope!), I felt the B2910 was the best way to go. I've never regretted my decision.
For reference, I'm on a 2/3 acre lot, with hardpan and rock soil. I use my B2910 as my digging machine. It has R4's, LA402 loader, Woods 7500 backhoe and Woods 1160 post hole auger. It's been a sweet machine and I'm thrilled with it. I haven't had any maneuverability problems with it.
In retrospect, any of the B models would have done what I needed. But I know a little voice in side of my head would have kept saying "...you should've gotten the bigger one, your should've gotten the bigger one". I guess I'm thankful they don't make a B3310! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
Good Luck,
Rick Jay
theboman
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Now, everybody behave and place nice or you'll be grounded from your 'Bota's for two days!
FYI, for 20 years we mowed 2-4 acres with a Wheelhorse 8HP Kohler with 36" deck, an awesome lawn & garden tractor. That was mowing once a week and it was also pulled many loads of firewood/dirt around an 11 acre farm. It was one stud machine, still is, but the mowing deck started to fall apart on year 18, the steering linkage was falling apart (several parts repaired). It cut grass neater than my
B7500 but only on the uneven spots, but no way does it compare to my Bota.
It was replaced by a MTW 18HP Briggs with 42" deck, and the Wheelhorse was 4-1 a better machine and I know that little HP could drag the MTW around the yard because of gearing and those Kohler engines are first class stud puppies.
I do love my 'Bota, and the B7500 fits me and the chores perfectly, at least for now.
FYI, for 20 years we mowed 2-4 acres with a Wheelhorse 8HP Kohler with 36" deck, an awesome lawn & garden tractor. That was mowing once a week and it was also pulled many loads of firewood/dirt around an 11 acre farm. It was one stud machine, still is, but the mowing deck started to fall apart on year 18, the steering linkage was falling apart (several parts repaired). It cut grass neater than my
B7500 but only on the uneven spots, but no way does it compare to my Bota.
It was replaced by a MTW 18HP Briggs with 42" deck, and the Wheelhorse was 4-1 a better machine and I know that little HP could drag the MTW around the yard because of gearing and those Kohler engines are first class stud puppies.
I do love my 'Bota, and the B7500 fits me and the chores perfectly, at least for now.
