Loader BX-24 loader hates me

[ayelvington]

I have yet to get my FEL to play nice and park well on my very uneven ground.

This is what it did to me today

I know it's not suppose to look like that, but that's what it took to shake the booger FEL off of the front of the tractor...

 

[bcp]

I have yet to get my FEL to play nice and park well on my very uneven ground.

...FEL, BH... box grader, back blade...

Why do you still have uneven ground where you remove the FEL?



Bruce

 

[timswi]

Dude,...Use the FEL to make a level spot...Allowing that to happen will cause all kinds of down the road problems, and it dangerous in more ways than one.

 

[Mounted Madness]

I'm curious as to why you're taking the FEL off in the first place?

Based on your list of toys, you shouldn't have any reason to remove it, at least from my perspective.

Over the almost 3 years I owned my BX24, the Backhoe was off and on countless times for the back blade, post driver, and auger. Never had any reason to take the FEL off...and my laziness overcame any curiousity I had in finding out if it would come off.

Maybe leaving it on is your best option.

Hope it works out...:thumbsup:

 

[Kubotamanjh]

I'm not sure but it looks like maybe you are removing it wrong. Solid level ground is a lot easier to remove and reinstall it but it still should not look like that. When I remove mine I put the bucket down level on the ground allow the bucket to pull the tractor up, remove the pins and let it back down, which should move the arms forward and then tilt the bucket to allow it to come out of the bottom notches. The fel should be resting on the stand and the bucket should be fairly flat on the ground. Hope this helps?

 

[paul314159]

Here's a video that pretty much follows the way the manual says to remove the FEL. I use the method in the manual and it seems to work fine. Have done it on smooth concrete and a stone pad without any problems.

YouTube FEL Removal

Paul

 

[savageactor7]

+1 on why remove the FEL? Maybe if you were using a snow blower I suppose.

<---- that one has never been off. I mow with it on too...so what? Since '92 I replaced the 'O' rings once...big deal for all the work it's done.

But it's still your call and I think what ever you think. Like the others advised, just level up some ground so your not making it harder than it is.

edit:

Al here's a handy tool for moving something like a FEL just an inch or 2. It's called a spud bar and you can get 'em nearly 6ft long.

 

[radioman]

I'm curious as to why you're taking the FEL off in the first place?

huh?! what not? I take mine off all the time. I don't like to leave it on when not in use, when you get used to how to take it off, its only about a min to get it off. It makes it nicer to mow, till garden,etc.

I think al is putting us on for show. If you look at the right side of fel arms, its appears to be touching the ground. It looks like he unhooked FEL sideways on hill instead of pointing down hill. I see he has pallets/timber in background he could've used it on the low side of bucket/FEL stand of hill to uneven it out. but then when rehooking it, it will be a nightmare due to rear tires on different plane. :laughing:

 

[ayelvington]

I'm curious as to why you're taking the FEL off in the first place?

It went back on easily enough... I take it off when I'm servicing the engine and axle since it tends to get in the way.

We haven't had rain for ages, and I was in no mood to try and flatten a hunk of rock-hard dirt to pop the FEL off... I was just annoyed at how clumsy it was.

Thanks to all for letting me vent!

 

[ayelvington]

Al here's a handy tool for moving something like a FEL just an inch or 2. It's called a spud bar and you can get 'em nearly 6ft long.

I have a spud bar that gets used at least once a week for most everything! It's a fun battering-ram ) It doesn't look like it, but the FEL was close to balanced, and I just propped up the arms with a 2x4 and drove in to remount it.

 

[kevinj]

I have yet to get my FEL to play nice and park well on my very uneven ground.

This is what it did to me today

I know it's not suppose to look like that, but that's what it took to shake the booger FEL off of the front of the tractor...

Looks like you need to work on your technique a bit, that bucket need to be flat on the ground when it is off the tractor

 

[CompactTractorFan]

I once moved the FEL a foot or two by hand to get it aligned to put it back on (it was in the garage)...:confused2:

 

[sw18x]

I'm with you. I always remove the bucket on level concrete in the same place in my garage, and it's an absolute crap shoot whether or not it will take 2 minutes or ten or twenty, though most of my problems come when I'm putting it back on. Actually, the easiest time I ever had was the first time...since then, it's hit or miss. I've been using the bucket a lot so it comes on/off once a week when I mow, and I'm starting to dread it. Taking it off, sometimes it doesn't want to slip off the pins (not the pins that slide out, the welded pins on the bracket on the tractor)...sometimes, in my manoevering, the hydraulic cylinders end up pushed out to different lengths when trying to put it back on, which becomes a very tricky situation. The time before last, I couldn't get it to slip back into place and the cylinders ended up all the way extended before finally I simply picked up the arms and dropped them into place by hand into the brackets. After that, it was a cinch, but overall the process took 20 minutes. The next week...1 minute, fell into place on the first try. Go figure.

So maybe part of it's technique and practice (though I've had it on and off at least ten times now), but some of it may be the mounts on the tractor, if they're slightly off. I would like to ask, referring to the technique described in kubotamanjh's post, you say you drop the bucket down level, raise the tractor, pull the pins, lower the tractor, then tilt the bucket? Following one of the online videos I saw, I've been tilting the bucket, then dropping it down to raise the tractor while tilted, removing the pins, then uncurling the bucket to land it on the stand and pull it off the tractor. A slight difference in techniques but maybe I'll try raising the tractor with a level bucket?

One piece of advice...one day when I was having a problem (I forget if I was taking it on or off), I realized that I had the tractor idling at too low of an rpm. I'd been trying to manoever the bucket controls and couldn't get the bucket to move far enough (I forget if I was curling or dropping the bucket). When I jacked up the rpms the hydraulics kicked in and I realized I simply hadn't had enought power to push the tractor / bucket where I needed it to be. After that, it was easy. Until the next time...

Good luck. I don't care what anyone says, it's not always as easy as it looks.

 

[BXpanded]

Al's just jerking our collective chains. :laughing::laughing: He's quite competent with that machine and I'll wager he knows exactly how to take the loader on/off!:thumbsup:

 

[kevinj]

I'm with you. I always remove the bucket on level concrete in the same place in my garage, and it's an absolute crap shoot whether or not it will take 2 minutes or ten or twenty, though most of my problems come when I'm putting it back on. Actually, the easiest time I ever had was the first time...since then, it's hit or miss. I've been using the bucket a lot so it comes on/off once a week when I mow, and I'm starting to dread it. Taking it off, sometimes it doesn't want to slip off the pins (not the pins that slide out, the welded pins on the bracket on the tractor)...sometimes, in my manoevering, the hydraulic cylinders end up pushed out to different lengths when trying to put it back on, which becomes a very tricky situation.
I've been tilting the bucket, then dropping it down to raise the tractor while tilted, removing the pins, then uncurling the bucket to land it on the stand and pull it off the tractor. A slight difference in techniques but maybe I'll try raising the tractor with a level bucket?


Good luck. I don't care what anyone says, it's not always as easy as it looks.

You need to watch the angle of the mounts when you hook up. Works best to push the tractor into the loader, this keeps it all in alignment.

Then when you dump the bucket watch the pins, if the are going to miss just bump the lift slightly to push the arms into the tractor.

I have 2 Kubotas with loaders and neither take more than 2 minutes to install when on concrete and no more that 5 in the dirt.

Between the 2 I probably pull the loaders 20 times a season as I pull them for service and brush hogging.

If in the dirt put a thin piece of wood or steel under the bucket lip and the feet so it slide as needed.