Oil & Fuel BX 2360 run with no oil.....

   / BX 2360 run with no oil..... #21  
Not to beat a dead horse here, but you can take out your key, tape over the ignition, and all that stuff, but please tell us what you or any of us are going to do the next time the oil light comes on: _____________________ (I know you can do this!!!):thumbsup::)
 
   / BX 2360 run with no oil.....
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#22  
The Oil Analysis is a thought, but I doubt I'll do it....what am I gonna do if shows contamination? Tear the engine down and rebuild it, or just keep running it until I have a problem? The second option I think. If I didn't think the tractor will outlive me anyway, I might do it.:laughing:

As far as what I will do when the light comes on again........I had "just changed" the oil so I expected it to stay on for a few second. When it didn't go out I drove it immediately to level ground (slowly) and it still wasn't out, I shut if off. Usually if you know you have oil in the engine and the light is on, more often then not it's a bad sensor or a short. Not often an oil pump goes bad, particularly on an engine that has only 120 hours on it....although of course it can and I am sure has happened. I "knew" I had just put 3.3 qts in it. In retrospect, I should have shut if off immediately and if it happens again I will. Live and learn........
 
   / BX 2360 run with no oil..... #23  
Not to beat a dead horse here, but you can take out your key, tape over the ignition, and all that stuff, but please tell us what you or any of us are going to do the next time the oil light comes on: _____________________ (I know you can do this!!!):thumbsup::)

Was having trouble with the oil light coming on in a 2004 Town & Country minivan, one in five times starting the oil light would come on. Would shut down and restart and it would go out. Did not know if oil pump was loosing prime or bad sensor as others had found. Finally got a trouble code for the sensor and replaced it and problem is now gone.

You have a sensor or gauge coming on engine shutdown in a safe and timely manner should be done.

I installed a gauge pod on my CAN AM Outlander quad for temp, oil pressure and charge voltage.

David
 
   / BX 2360 run with no oil..... #25  
The OP stated: "Usually if you know you have oil in the engine and the light is on, more often then not it's a bad sensor or a short."

Wrong answer: One ALWAYS takes the oil light at face value, and if you had done so, you would have avoided doing whatever damage you may have done to your engine. It's just like a gun; NEVER assume it's the light that's faulty, and ALWAYS assume the gun IS loaded! Test and verify.

I seem to recall you also revved the engine a few times thinking that would help turn the light off?!:confused2:

If you do an oil analysis you will have a starting point for results in future. You either did or didn't do damage, and this is one way to find out more than you know currently.
One can speculate till the cows come home, but that proves nothing.
 
   / BX 2360 run with no oil.....
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#26  
Given ordinary circumstances, I would agree...I would have assumed the oil was low and stopped the engine immediately. As I have already said, I should have cut it off. Yes, I revved it momentarily, less then 2000 rpms and only momentarily. As far as testing....if it came back contaminated, would I spend several thousand dollars to do a rebuild or replace the engine? No, I would wait until when and if I had some issues and address it then. You are correct, I either did or didn't do any damage.......and if the cows do indeed come home, I guess I'll find out then. Thank you taking the time effort to comment, it is appreciated.
 
   / BX 2360 run with no oil..... #27  
engine that has only 120 hours on it....

This was going to be my first question....how many hours on the engine. 120, it's still pretty tight. I can guarantee you some damage was done, most likely to the main bearings. The big question is, how many hours until it shows up. Very difficult to answer that.

Perhaps you could try reaching out to a respected Kubota tech, see what they say. My gut tells me this is not good.
 
   / BX 2360 run with no oil..... #28  
As other suggest...you need to get a oil analysis done. I use Blackstone Labs....$30. Had engine problems from fuel leaking into #3 cylinder which caused a hydro lok. Its a long story ( 1.5 yrs ago ) but I sent a sample in prior ( 6 hrs on the engine oil ) to getting the cylinder rebuilt. Just changed the oil last month and sent a sample in. The report showed numerous metals in the oil .... which would be normal after a cylinder rebuild. You need to establish a baseline so you can keep track of the engine wear.
 
   / BX 2360 run with no oil..... #29  
Given ordinary circumstances, I would agree...I would have assumed the oil was low and stopped the engine immediately. As I have already said, I should have cut it off. Yes, I revved it momentarily, less then 2000 rpms and only momentarily. As far as testing....if it came back contaminated, would I spend several thousand dollars to do a rebuild or replace the engine? No, I would wait until when and if I had some issues and address it then. You are correct, I either did or didn't do any damage.......and if the cows do indeed come home, I guess I'll find out then. Thank you taking the time effort to comment, it is appreciated.

The oil analysis now is to determine if a significant amount of metal is present. Then a 1000 hours or whenever do a second sample and see what wear is indicated. It's NOT about a teardown. It IS about if a teardown will or will not be needed and how soon, so you have options. Meantime keep the cows out and money in the piggy-bank.
You're welcome for the input. I owned/ran a foreign auto shop for over ten years in a past life. We did oil analysis, especially on customer diesels, on a regular basis. And we dropped new Benz and Volvo engines into customer cars fairly regularly, some short blocks, some entire factory remans, etc.
 
   / BX 2360 run with no oil..... #30  
Do you have a loan on it through Kubota? If so then there's a chance that you have Kubota's insurance on it. If something happens to the engine they will cover most of the cost. Did you start it up and move it before you drained the oil or did you let it sit overnight and then just drain it out? If it sat for some time then the oil would of drained back down to the pan.
 

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