Buying new JD 5075E or Kubota M4D-071

[rob0075]

I'm getting ready to buy either a 5075e or a M4D. Currently own a JD 4052r and a Kubota B2601 so I'm not necessarily loyal to either brand, both dealers are rather close and seem good to work with. I've really looked at both tractors and each has things I like. I've heard a lot of people knocking the JD E series for various reasons. Some have issues with it being made in India, I'm not sure how valid that is, there are tons of US companies manufacturing stuff overseas. I really like the Kubotas 6/2 hydraulic shuttle shift with declutch button, the JD only gives you 4 synchronized gears before you need to change one of 3 ranges (stopping) and only a foot clutch. The JD cab seems nicer and I think it had an adjustment to make the powereverser smoother when shifting using the column reverser. Both have the deluxe cabs and most other things are equal including the price of both. The JD weighs significantly more and looks like it has a beefier frame/axles but I'm not sure that makes it any better. Does anyone have any thoughts on these 2 tractors?

 

[WVH1977]

You stated you really have looked, have you test driven both?

 

[rob0075]

Yes, I have. I like the 6 sync speeds and declutch button of the Kubota but the JD seemed smoother. It will be used for light hay work and loader work around our farm so changing speeds frequently and easily is a must.

 

[WVH1977]

I looked really hard at a used John Deere 5065e and new Kubota M6070. Almost pulled the trigger on the M6070. I am not doing hay work but drove both. I felt like the Deere had the edge on comfort, ease of use and bulkiness. It is a tough decision but if I were buying new with cab, I would probably go with JD but understand you liking the Kubota trans. Do these tractors have creep gears. Can the Kubota go slow enough if needed?

 

[rob0075]

The JD trans seemed slow enough with the standard 12/12 powereverser. I did notice the Kubota couldn't get that slow however I want the cast rear wheels so I'd be ordering the Kubota and would get the creep option.

 

[WVH1977]

Based on what you are replying with, I think you would be good to go either way and be happy. Only other thing I noticed when looking was the Deere had a park gear. Does the M4D have a park gear? I liked the fact that Deere had a park gear.

 

[rob0075]

Based on what you are replying with, I think you would be good to go either way and be happy. Only other thing I noticed when looking was the Deere had a park gear. Does the M4D have a park gear? I liked the fact that Deere had a park gear.

Kubota has a park brake lever

 

[Notforhire]

I had a 5055E for several years. I had a few problems, head gasket, starter motor, bucket controls and some electrical problems. I didn't like the 9-3 transmission reverse was about the same gearing as 2nd so I didn't like it for loader work. I also had a problem with the dealer on warranty work.

If you picked a gear and left it there it worked as intended. It was good for mowing. Plenty of power and weight. Resale was an issue. They have a lot of bad press.

 

[Needville]

I don't know the weight of the Kubota, but I use my 5055e for moving hay as well and weight is a must. I also have a Branson 5520 which is roughly the same horsepower, but it has a shorter wheelbase and is really unstable moving hay bales. My bales are 5x5, sometimes 5.5x5.5 and the JD moves them easily even without a counterweight. The Branson gets a little scary even with a counterweight.

 

[Notforhire]

No counterweight.

 

[BMC330]

I was looking at both of these tractors a little over 2 years ago. I was going to go with Kubota due to friends working at my local dealership. It was when the supply chain issues were real bad and I was looking at a 6 month wait for Kubota but the Deere dealer had a 5075E in stock. I waited as long as I could on Kubota but had to pull the trigger on the Deere. I needed for hay also. I have just over 200 hours on it and it has done everything I have ask of it with no issues at all. I have been very pleased with my purchase.

 

[LightningCamaroGuy]

The 5E and M60 are main competitors to one another. It's like Mustang vs Camaro. It's easy to see when you go look at them. A 5075E is the M7060's main competitor and vice versa. I believe the M4-71 is an upscaled M7060, that has a few extra niceities and features, but at their core they are pretty much the same machine. I believe the reason JD introduced the 5075E Premium Cab was to counter Kubota introducing the M4-71. In 18 I look at both, and prefer certain things about each over the other, but honestly do you like Silverado 1500's or F150? Either will do the same job as the other pretty much just as well. I ultimately went with the 5075E, and have been very happy with it at around 350 hour. If I had gone with the M7060 I likely would be making the same claim though.

If you want me to list off my opinions, and/of things I prefer about one over the other I can, but I don't want this to turn into a big argument. Tractor brand loyal can be just like car/truck/chainsaw/etc loyalty, and has the potential to become an argument. Again both are excellent, very competitive with the other, and both are made to compete with each other more than any other models on the market. When you look at options, features, specs, size, price, etc it's plain to see that they just are.

 

[5030]

Like I always say (numerous times), the dealer can make or break any sale. Good attentive dealer is worth his weight in gold. Bad dealer will cause you untold grief. I do Kubota entirely because of my local dealer, really not brand loyal at all, never have been.

i would also look at the time payment options. I know Kubota is still offering 0 percent on most every model, not that it matters to me because I write off all the farm equipment as a business expense anyway.

JMO.

 

[Bavarian]

Two things that would draw me to Deere in that case.
Deere has a better, sturdier front axle.
And if I'm not entirely wrong, when they switched from 5xx5E to 5xx0E, from that point on they don't have a DPF filter anymore.
All 3 cylinder 5E are DOC only. A big advantage over a DPF in my opinion.

 

[5030]

None of the emissions junk is good IMO.

 

[LightningCamaroGuy]

Two things that would draw me to Deere in that case.
Deere has a better, sturdier front axle.
And if I'm not entirely wrong, when they switched from 5xx5E to 5xx0E, from that point on they don't have a DPF filter anymore.
All 3 cylinder 5E are DOC only. A big advantage over a DPF in my opinion.

The 2023/2024 5E 3 cylinder machines did do away with the DPF in favor of a DOC. I agree that I would rather have basically just a catalytic converter that constantly just burns off evil soot particles, than a $3,000+ muffler that collects the soot, and stores it until a computer tells the machine that it needs to inject fuel into the DPF muffler and burn off all that soot. With that said my 18 5075E regens at every 100 hours and that's it. Usually takes 20-25 minutes. The computer won't let it go past 100 hours without regenning. It has not regenned at any other time, and it's not given me any issues. Another thing the 23/24 models got was a 11.2x24 tire as the standard front tire instead of a 9.5x24 tire like the older models had, and a 12.4x24 front tire is an option if you want larger then a 11.2x24.