Bought a mx4700 today

[motownbrowne]

I've never used the extendable arms on these modern tractors, so maybe I don't know what I'm missing, but they certainly weren't a selling point for me. I have been using the 8n with no brakes and hooking up implements to that can be a chore. We don't have much level ground, so you have to get as close as you can and shut it off. Having the tractor stay still when I get off, hydro, or parking brake will be a real treat. We have and regularly use about six three point implements which we switch often, so those quick hitches from Pat look really nice. Also, the integrated drawbar will eliminate attaching the three point drawbar every time, which will be nice.

 

[JC-jetro]

The difference between 8n and mx4700 is that mx has catII lift and 8n catI. Anything I attach to my Ford 1700 is cat I implement and lighter. I have always been able to use a piece of iron pipe, 2x4 as pry bar or T-post to line things up by slightly lifting and moving to get the pins line up. I think it'll be very difficult to do that without help on a bigger heavy Cat II implement such as may be 7 foot wide cutter. The extendible with heavy implement that you might not be able to move , so all you do is to line up the lower link and the pin and bring the tractor say to couple of inches of the pins and use the extensions to line up the hole and pins.

JC,

 

[k0ua]

I've never used the extendable arms on these modern tractors, so maybe I don't know what I'm missing, but they certainly weren't a selling point for me. I have been using the 8n with no brakes and hooking up implements to that can be a chore. We don't have much level ground, so you have to get as close as you can and shut it off. Having the tractor stay still when I get off, hydro, or parking brake will be a real treat. We have and regularly use about six three point implements which we switch often, so those quick hitches from Pat look really nice. Also, the integrated drawbar will eliminate attaching the three point drawbar every time, which will be nice.

I will just tell you straight up, if you don't have extendable lower links and stabilizers, well, you don't know what you are missing. But the Pat's or Carters or a QH, can make up for not having them on the tractor. It is different, but effective.

 

[motownbrowne]

Pat's system looks like a good one. I'll have to see how my PTO shaft lengths will work with the new tractor. If there's room, I'll add a quick hitch system. For now it's a good thing I've never used the telescoping version, ignorance is bliss I guess, or at least some cash in my pocket.

 

[wmonroe]

Pat's system looks like a good one. I'll have to see how my PTO shaft lengths will work with the new tractor. If there's room, I'll add a quick hitch system. For now it's a good thing I've never used the telescoping version, ignorance is bliss I guess, or at least some cash in my pocket.

If you haven't used extendable lower links then like you said, you won't know what your missing. I never missed them before I had them and would have been fine without them, but now that I have them, well....

 

[Beltman60]

Congratulations on your new tractor
looks like it should be a beauty

I love my Pat's :thumbsup:

 

[motownbrowne]

Still waiting for it to get here. Dealer is having a hard time finding my tires. Now that I've paid for it I don't want to wrestle around moving logs and lumber and firewood without it. Hope he can find them soon or I'm gonna go crazy.

 

[DSM123]

I'm considering a MX4700 HST since I do quite a bit of loader work and figure it would be easier for my wife to operate. Although, I have no problems with a shuttle shift.
I've heard stories that HST robs HP for ground engagement work. Any input from HST owners???
Thanks!

 

[davrow]

I've heard stories that HST robs HP for ground engagement work. Any input from HST owners???
Thanks!

There is absolutely no question that HST 'robs' HP. That is why the specs always list 'engine HP' and 'PTO HP' separately.
If you need the HP, buy according to the 'output HP', not the 'engine HP'. It really is that simple.

 

[k0ua]

I'm considering a MX4700 HST since I do quite a bit of loader work and figure it would be easier for my wife to operate. Although, I have no problems with a shuttle shift.
I've heard stories that HST robs HP for ground engagement work. Any input from HST owners???
Thanks!

Sure it does. But the benefits of HST outweigh it in my opinion.. just size the tractor to the PTO horspower you will need. An Mx4700 is a big strong tractor, what are you planning to do that might use all of its available power? The ability for rapid movement in loader work, and the ability to have fine control of your movements are very important to me. As a bonus it is easy to operate, and less tireing for any operator, not just novice's.

 

[KYDan]

Congratulations on your tractor purchase. I debated about the questions you asked before purchasing my MX. I debated the difference in price and operating costs (At the time I purchased my MX it was the tier 3 emissions and I thought the normally aspirated MX4700 would be more fuel efficient.) Anyway, long story short I purchased the MX 5100 HST, 4WD, version with the R4's which suited my applications better. I love the extendable links with the Cat I & II options, I also got it with the QA for the loader and the HD round back bucket and all have proven to be worth the money. For my purposes I would go with the QA loader over the 3 pt. hitch extendable arms, but would be a tough choice. This was my second Kubota and it is proving to be as dependable as my first one which I sold after 17 years when I purchased this one. Be sure to get the fluid in the rear tires as it greatly improves traction and stability for the loader as well.

 

[GManBart]

Still waiting for it to get here. Dealer is having a hard time finding my tires. Now that I've paid for it I don't want to wrestle around moving logs and lumber and firewood without it. Hope he can find them soon or I'm gonna go crazy.

Waiting is no fun! I think you'll find there's a world of difference in what you can do with the MX4700, and adding a set of Pat's Quick Hitch makes swapping implements incredibly easy. They make one version that bolts on to the 3pt lift arms, and a second that is welded on. The bolt on style effectively lengthen the lift arms about 4" which can be a bit of a pain with some implements that need a longer top link. If I was doing it all over, I'd go with the welded version, although it's not a problem because I have a hydraulic top link, and factored that in when I ordered it from Brian at Fit Rite.

 

[Beltman60]

I have the pat's and they help so much
as far as the shorten top link because of the extended arms
I bought a top link at Rural Kiing for $24. and welded a section in it to start at my standard top link and can go out 8-9" further
this takes care of all my problems for a $24 investment

 

[KYDan]

You can purchase an extended category I top link from Tractor Supply. I have one and it works great.

CountyLine® Adjustable Top Link, Cat. 1, Extra Long - Tractor Supply Co.

 

[ovrszd]

I thought about the lower links, since we do switch implements pretty often, but honestly right now, the budget is pretty tight. I'm thinking right now I'll run it as is, and maybe think about a quick attach down the road. Do you think the extendable arms are better, or should I focus on the quick attach. I've seen some pretty crazy prices to add the extendable arms.

With my L4400 I could buy both arms and swap them myself for $375. Left me with an extra set of arms if something bad happened.

 

[ovrszd]

As someone mentioned earlier, the casting is the same on the 4700 versus 5100. The lower links are interchangeable. Contact your salesman and ask him to price you a pair of extendables. He should sell them to you at cost since you are buying a new tractor from him. You can install them yourself. Here's the part numbers. TC050-71363 and TC050-71373.

With that said, I'm a QH fan. There's four levels here.

The MX4700 has level #1, non extendable. It's the hardest system to use.

The MX5100 has level #2, extendable arms. It's much easier to use.

PAT's is level #3, open hooks on the lowers. It much easier to use than level #2 but still have to deal with top link as you do in levels #1 and #2.

Quick Hitch is level #4, open hooks and attachs top link at same time. Easiest to use.

TnT is an addition that can be used in any of these levels but probably offers the greatest flexibility with a Quick Hitch.

It all costs money, but what doesn't.

 

[GManBart]

You can purchase an extended category I top link from Tractor Supply. I have one and it works great.

CountyLine® Adjustable Top Link, Cat. 1, Extra Long - Tractor Supply Co.

That's what I did when I was waiting for my hydraulic top link. For comparison's sake, I lined everything up with the Pat's and extended top link on my MF, and I still needed a longer top link. They used Cat I/II lift arms on it, and they're really long....adding the Pat's made them too long, so I would definitely need the weld-on version for it.

 

[wildcatblue]

Just racked up a 100hrs on mine so far without a hicup, great tractor so far. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[k0ua]

As someone mentioned earlier, the casting is the same on the 4700 versus 5100. The lower links are interchangeable. Contact your salesman and ask him to price you a pair of extendables. He should sell them to you at cost since you are buying a new tractor from him. You can install them yourself. Here's the part numbers. TC050-71363 and TC050-71373.

With that said, I'm a QH fan. There's four levels here.

The MX4700 has level #1, non extendable. It's the hardest system to use.

The MX5100 has level #2, extendable arms. It's much easier to use.

PAT's is level #3, open hooks on the lowers. It much easier to use than level #2 but still have to deal with top link as you do in levels #1 and #2.

Quick Hitch is level #4, open hooks and attachs top link at same time. Easiest to use.

TnT is an addition that can be used in any of these levels but probably offers the greatest flexibility with a Quick Hitch.

It all costs money, but what doesn't.

Richard have you considered that there could be a level 5?
A Delta hook.
3 point hitch | 3 point quick hitch | 3 point tractor hitch | The Deltahook

I believe it would be easier to hook up than even a good QH, because if you did not have top and tilt you could still easily hook on due to the self aligning nature of the delta.
Also disconnecting is easy without leaving the seat as you have a pull cable to release it. Only PTO hookup requires you to leave the seat, but you still have to do that with all levels except with the JD auto version of their QH, and a couple of European designs.

Downside of the Delta hook is that you must have the receiver for each implement you own, and the overall cost is higher for that reason.

 

[TexasBoy]

That thing reminds me of the old slide-mounts we used on our CB radios back in the 70s.