Best commercial zero turn?

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   / Best commercial zero turn? #111  
If I was buy a new mower, if it wasnt going to be a diesel, it would have the highest HP NON-efi kawasaki engine on it.

Nothing against kohler, but they are thirstier, and the kawasaki's just seem to run smoother.

Everything else is looks and ergonomics for the most part. The engine is the heart of the beast. Most of the mowers at these levels use the same pumps and motors.

Sure, decks are different. Some cut better than others in different conditions, but they can easily be modified to cut it just takes time. Different blades, different baffle settings, etc. Stuff that most people are too afraid to mess with.

Example, my scag has the advantage deck. I hear its great for southern grasses, but the velocity deck much better up north here. But through trial and error, I found a great combo. The spacer between the deck and blades I shortened by 1/2". An I run a super high lift blade on the far left, standard lift in the middle, and a gator on the right.

I would go all super-high lifts, as that moves so much air that clipping distribution and deck plugging are never a problem. But 3 of them with 27hp on a 61" deck dont do well going up hill. The blades rob too much power.

Back to the motors. Im not sold on the EFI's. Too many issues I have heard of with them not running right. Maybe they are better now. But I'd stick with the tried and true
 
   / Best commercial zero turn? #112  
Not trying to start a D v G war, but I hear that big Vanguard gasser is a beast and a diesel killer, too. I think its 39HP?
I bet its thirsty, but if you need the power.....WOW
I'm all diesel-everything from several trucks, to farm tractors, zero turns....
I'm sticking with diesel for convenience, fuel savings and longevity
 
   / Best commercial zero turn? #113  
Hustler Super Z here, 52" deck, 25hp Kawasaki powered. Bought it new in '04 and mowed commercially for three years all over the Kansas City area, recent years it has been used to mow one acre lawn. The thing is built like a tank and has been trouble free with just routine oil and filter changes, greasing the dozen or so grease fittings. The spindles are equipped with zerks as opposed to some brands using non-greasable sealed bearings.
 
   / Best commercial zero turn? #114  
Not trying to start a D v G war, but I hear that big Vanguard gasser is a beast and a diesel killer, too. I think its 39HP?
I bet its thirsty, but if you need the power.....WOW
I'm all diesel-everything from several trucks, to farm tractors, zero turns....
I'm sticking with diesel for convenience, fuel savings and longevity

We came to the same conclusion with uniformity in fuel use but chose owner/operator comfort as paramount concern {Right behind cut quality}.
Ferris {IS2600Z} with Yanmar diesel was chosen for our farm use.
It's so nice that I didnt use the 3-point 72" finish mower at all last year.
What a sweet ride!

Ferris IS2600Z.jpg
 
   / Best commercial zero turn? #115  
I知 tempted to retrofit an air ride seat into mine. First I want to try my 途ubber bushing installation between the seat brackets and the seat mounting studs. 1800 commercial hours on mine.

I purchased and installed one of these on my Hustler Fastrak: SEAT SUSPENSION EXMARK, KUBOTA, JOHN DEERE Z TRAK, TORO, HUSTLER ZTR LAWN MOWERS #EP - Seat Warehouse

It was worth every penny. It's adjustable for weight, and the ride it provides is much less jarring than before.
 
   / Best commercial zero turn? #116  
I purchased and installed one of these on my Hustler Fastrak: SEAT SUSPENSION EXMARK, KUBOTA, JOHN DEERE Z TRAK, TORO, HUSTLER ZTR LAWN MOWERS #EP - Seat Warehouse

It was worth every penny. It's adjustable for weight, and the ride it provides is much less jarring than before.

I have some suspension to my seat. I think its a lot like that base you posted a link to (thank you). I want to either improve mine with rubber bushings, or dust off my credit card and buy an air suspension base.
 
   / Best commercial zero turn? #117  
I'm in the market for a 60" zero turn in the 30HP range, considering the following:

Scag Tiger Cat - 61" 32hp vanguard
Scag Turf Tiger - 61" 35hp vanguard
Hustler Super Z - 60" 27hp Kawi
Hustler Super Z Hyper - 60" 37hp vanguard EFI
Exmark e series - 60" 25hp kawi
Kubota 700 series - 60" 30hp kawi

From what I've gathered in research:

Scag - great deck, good engine choices, more expensive, some electrical issues
Hustler - well made machine, VX4 deck does not cut well in northern grass (I live in PA), expensive
Exmark - Used to be a staple of the commercial ZTR world, quality has slipped in recent years? Decks clump when cutting wet grass?
Kubota - relatively unknown here, decent price for features offered, not sure about longevity or cut quality?

My mind is about blown reading and comparing, interested if any of you agree/disagree with what I've found. Will need to buy something in the next few weeks as I just recently sold my old machine.

I was lucky enough to score a very low hour Kubota ZD 331 three years ago. Perhaps look around on the equipment sale websites, that machine is a beast. Kubota stopped making them because of tier iv I believe.
 
   / Best commercial zero turn? #118  
I was lucky enough to score a very low hour Kubota ZD 331 three years ago. Perhaps look around on the equipment sale websites, that machine is a beast. Kubota stopped making them because of tier iv I believe.

We may have already exchanged this information, but thats exactly what I did. I waited for a good price on a ZD331 and pounced for $7500. Sad to say, there were 2 of them on the dealer lot, both traded in by same ball field maintenance company at the same time. Should have bought both. Almost identical condition and hours.
There was also an excellent, low hour F3680 with 72" deck that I refuse to stop kicking myself for not buying for $8,000.
I firmly believe I could have bought all 3 machines, used each one, decided on 2 and sold the 3rd at a tidy profit.
But the ZD331 IS a DIESEL BEAST and no regrets.
 
   / Best commercial zero turn? #119  
I believe I got an average deal on my ZD331 with 400h at $9000.
No regrets though... Over the past 3 years I've put an additional 1200 hours on it saving about 60 hours of seat time per season over my ZD326 60" backup mower.
 
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