BBQ Smokers

   / BBQ Smokers #141  
At the risk of repeating myself, (I'm pretty sure I have posted this somewhere before), I will post my recipe and method for smoked baby back ribs. Incidentally, I cook my chickens the same way. However, seems like chickens come out a bit better on the Weber Smoky Mountain Smoker because of the water pan. Also, putting the rub on and allowing it to sit overnight seems to make a noticeable improvement in the flavor of chicken.



Here you go!

Baby back ribs on the Big Green Egg or your own brand of smoker

INGREDIENTS

2 Slabs nice meaty baby back ribs, thawed, rinsed and patted dry
olive oil or Pam; spray can works best
Rib Rub
Turkey bake-in bag
chunk charcoal
CURED wood chunks for smoking; I prefer about 1/3 Mesquite, 1/3 blackjack oak and 1/3 pecan. Blackjack isn't available everywhere, so regular oak is OK. Hickory is good also. I never use green wood nor do I soak mine.

Lay the ribs in a cookie sheet, bony side up. Spray a fine coat of olive oil on the ribs and add a generous coating of your rubb. I use the #2 almost exclusively.

Turn the ribs over, spray the other side with the olive oil and generously coat the meaty side with the rub. Place into the bake-in bag overnight in the frige. I like to prepare them the day before if I can, but I don't always have that luxury.

I usually add a few chunks of wood to the smoker before I add the burning charcoal on top. I use the chunk charcoal in the Egg, and I start it using the chimney device so I don't have to use charcoal lighter. Add the hot charcoal to the smoker and place the rest of the smoking wood on top. I usually use about 2 or 3 medium size chunks of each on top of the coals. Mesquite is a great smoking wood, but it doesn't take a lot to make the meat bitter, so go easy with it until you learn how much to use.

When the coals are ready, I place the ribs on the grill bony side down. If I cook more than 2 slabs, I use a rib rack but prefer they lie flat. I also cook directly over the coals instead of indirect because I like them to brown a bit. If you insist on a brush on sauce, I recommend Woody's Cooking Sauce.

I set the smoker to cook at about 250 degrees Farenheit or a bit below. It takes about 2 and 1/2 to 3 hours usually for baby backs; much more and they will just fall apart. I start checking them after about 2 hours. The hardest part is deciding when they are done; when a toothpick penetrates the meat easily they are done; look for the ribs to starting pulling away from the ends of the bones.

I like to let them sit for a few minutes until they cool before slicing them up. If you are transporting them say to Grandma's house, wrap them in aluminum foil, and then in a beach towel or two and put them in your small beer cooler. They will stay warm for a couple hours.

Enjoy.

A few comments on rubs...There are a couple commercial rubs I like very much. The first is Bad Byron's Butt Rubb. It is an excellent rub, but it is too spicy for most folks, especially the kids. I also like Cain's BBQ Rub; it is milder and has a great flavor, but it does contain MSG. I have formulated my own rubs; the recipes are below. The # 1 is as close to Bad Byron's Butt Rubb as I could get, but here again, it's fairly spicy hot. The #2 is what I use almost exclusively any more; not too hot for the kids and everyone seems to like it really well.

Sorry, these recipes make a pretty good size batch, but I use a lot of the #2. If you want less, you'll have to go to the conversion charts and cut it down some. When I'm cooking just for myself and Sharn Jean, I usually add a little extra garlic directly to the ribs during the prep phase. There are a lot of prep variations I have used; I often will spread a couple tablespoons of yellow mustard on the ribs, gives them just a hint of vinegar, but here again, you can get too much if you aren't careful.


D.G.'s #1 Rib Rub

1 Cup Paprika
2/3 Cup Black pepper ( mix of regular and coarse ground)
1/2 Cup Granulated Garlic
3 TBSP Salt (fine sea salt; no Iodine added)
3 TBSP Granulated Onion
3 TBSP Chipotle Powder


D.G.'s #2 Rib Rub

1 Cup Paprika
2/3 Cup Black Pepper (mix of regular and coarse ground)
1/2 Cup Granulated Garlic
1/3 Cup Brown Sugar (light)
1/3 Cup white Sugar
1/3 Cup Ginger
3 TBSP Salt (fine sea salt; no Iodine added)
3 TBSP Granulated Onion
3 TBSP Chipotle Powder
2 TBSP Lemon Pepper
1 TBSP Celery Seed
 
   / BBQ Smokers #144  
Good luck with that. I had one; it wouldn't get hot enough. I used it once or twice and gave it to the Salvation Army. I had a similar one called the Cajun Cooker, and it was excellent.

Yes, I intend to use the first "seasoning" to see how hot it gets and for how long with how much charcoal. Lots of guys seem to reverse the legs for easier access to the charcoal pan, as well as drill holes in it for better air flow. By the looks of what most have done, it would be ideal to get a 2nd lid, turn it upside down, put 3 legs on it, add a charcoal grate and a vent. Vent on top and you've got something!
 
   / BBQ Smokers #145  
Yes, I intend to use the first "seasoning" to see how hot it gets and for how long with how much charcoal. Lots of guys seem to reverse the legs for easier access to the charcoal pan, as well as drill holes in it for better air flow. By the looks of what most have done, it would be ideal to get a 2nd lid, turn it upside down, put 3 legs on it, add a charcoal grate and a vent. Vent on top and you've got something!

Let us know how it works out. The price is right, so if these mods work, it would be a real bargain.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #146  
My pleasure. I get rave reviews over my ribs, so I am a bit proud of my technique and my rubbs.

Do you leave the membrane on the bone side of the ribs?

BTW, I have been using Byron's Butt Rub for several years and love it...to make it less spicy just use less rub...I know it's hard :)
 
   / BBQ Smokers #147  
Do you leave the membrane on the bone side of the ribs?

BTW, I have been using Byron's Butt Rub for several years and love it...to make it less spicy just use less rub...I know it's hard :)

I do leave them on. I have never seen the utility of removing them; in fact, I think it keeps them a bit more moist. I do not like my ribs "falling off the bone", I like them tender of course, but with just a little bit of "snap" when you bite into them. "Falling off the bone" is for pulled pork. I also use direct heat...they get a little more brown, and will cook faster. I can't see that using indirect heat, and cooking for 4 or 5 hours helps them very much.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #148  
I cooked a "Kalua" pig this weekend that was well received. I didn't have an Imu or lava rocks or banana leaves so substituted an electric smoker at 210-220 for ten hours. Substituted aluminum foil for banana leaves. Stopped the cook at internal temp of 200. Used the simple Hawaiian recipe (pig, salt, heat, eat) and did use red dirt sea salt from Hawaii. Came out great. Served it as sliders on King's Bakery Hawaiian sweet rolls with a spoonful of coleslaw on each. Very tasty.

Got the two pork shoulders (Boston butt) and rolls and slaw from Costco. Pretty easy ersatz luau. I've never cooked one before but have participated in many true luaus when I lived in Hawaii and the flavor and texture were pretty much indistinguishable from the original. Good eatin' food!

I saw a lot of recipes on line that call for using liquid smoke or real smoke but an authentic Imu has no element of smoke as the cooking is indirect using rocks heated in a fire that pretty much completely dies before cooling. No spices other than salt in a traditional Kalua pig either. Basically Kaula pig can be thought of as the plainest of plain pulled pork BBQ but it works wonderfully.

Next time I'm gonna try a mainland (?North Carolinian) version of pulled pork using the Byron's Butt rub that Amazon is sending me (had to try it after hearing you guys praise it).
 
   / BBQ Smokers #149  
I cooked a "Kalua" pig this weekend that was well received. I didn't have an Imu or lava rocks or banana leaves so substituted an electric smoker at 210-220 for ten hours. Substituted aluminum foil for banana leaves. Stopped the cook at internal temp of 200. Used the simple Hawaiian recipe (pig, salt, heat, eat) and did use red dirt sea salt from Hawaii. Came out great. Served it as sliders on King's Bakery Hawaiian sweet rolls with a spoonful of coleslaw on each. Very tasty.

Got the two pork shoulders (Boston butt) and rolls and slaw from Costco. Pretty easy ersatz luau. I've never cooked one before but have participated in many true luaus when I lived in Hawaii and the flavor and texture were pretty much indistinguishable from the original. Good eatin' food!

I saw a lot of recipes on line that call for using liquid smoke or real smoke but an authentic Imu has no element of smoke as the cooking is indirect using rocks heated in a fire that pretty much completely dies before cooling. No spices other than salt in a traditional Kalua pig either. Basically Kaula pig can be thought of as the plainest of plain pulled pork BBQ but it works wonderfully.

Next time I'm gonna try a mainland (?North Carolinian) version of pulled pork using the Byron's Butt rub that Amazon is sending me (had to try it after hearing you guys praise it).

Looks like you have found yourself another hobby. Congrats. It's a big club, and I predict it will be a life-long love affair. I like to buy the little pork butts that come in a little mesh bag, about 4 or 5 pounds. They cook up rather well, and I can cook them in one day. I usually take them off about 185 or 190 and they pull rather well. I sprinkle them liberally with rubb and let them sit overnight and use indirect heat.

Let us know how you like Bad Byron's Butt Rubb. Like I said, I love it, but too hot for the kids, and it is just a tad salty when you use it liberally.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #150  
Any 'BBQ Pitmasters" fans here?

I learned to smoke fish and seafood when I was nine or ten years old....my grandmother lived next door to a man named Ross Johns...https://books.google.com/books?id=AXOgs7KYtUsC&pg=PA32&lpg=PA32&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false

I got interested in cooking different meats after watching Justin Wilson (RIP) who had an outdoor cooking show on TV...(I have all his books) https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=justin+wilson
BTW...that goofball chef that says "BAM" all the time ( bella lagosi or something...) stole more cooking ideas from Justin Wilson than Milton Berle stole jokes...!

These days it's Myron Mixon and co...they get some unique cuts of meat sometimes that aren't usually available everywhere though...(what the heck is a "cowboy steak" ?)
 
   / BBQ Smokers #151  
I also smoked some scup that a group of neighborhood kids caught and filleted. Soaked in brine for 15 minutes then into smoker set at 190 for two hours. Used a couple handfuls of applewood chips. Delicious. Have instructed kids to go get me a nice bluefish...that is what I really want to smoke.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #152  
I also smoked some scup that a group of neighborhood kids caught and filleted. Soaked in brine for 15 minutes then into smoker set at 190 for two hours. Used a couple handfuls of applewood chips. Delicious. Have instructed kids to go get me a nice bluefish...that is what I really want to smoke.

Just about any fruit wood works great for fin or shellfish...the less oily the fish etc. the lighter/fruitier the smoke the better...nut wood (hickory/pecan etc.) works better for more oilier fish like mackerels and especially "bluefish"...(salt brining is also important)...
FWIW...Bluefish is one of the most commonly used smoked fish for the very popular (appetizer) spreads...

The way I learned to cut fish for smoking is to split them from the top down...rather than splitting the belly (and gutting) then butter-flying...i.e., cut down along the dorsal (removing the backbone is an option) ....for many smoked fish (especially the more oilier varieties) the "belly meat" is the most flavorful and exotic tasting)...

Try marinating some large shrimp (oxymoron) in olive oil, garlic and or some Italian dressing...apply heavy smoke at a very low temperature (no direct heat)...turn/baste every ten minutes or so until they start to turn opaque...chill and enjoy...!...too much heat will make the shell stick...
 
   / BBQ Smokers #153  
Any 'BBQ Pitmasters" fans here?

I learned to smoke fish and seafood when I was nine or ten years old....my grandmother lived next door to a man named Ross Johns...https://books.google.com/books?id=AXOgs7KYtUsC&pg=PA32&lpg=PA32&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false

I got interested in cooking different meats after watching Justin Wilson (RIP) who had an outdoor cooking show on TV...(I have all his books) https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=justin+wilson
BTW...that goofball chef that says "BAM" all the time ( bella lagosi or something...) stole more cooking ideas from Justin Wilson than Milton Berle stole jokes...!

These days it's Myron Mixon and co...they get some unique cuts of meat sometimes that aren't usually available everywhere though...(what the heck is a "cowboy steak" ?)

Justin Wilson was a safety engineer... belt AND suspenders! :thumbsup:

How Y'All Are?

 
   / BBQ Smokers #154  
Just about any fruit wood works great for fin or shellfish...the less oily the fish etc. the lighter/fruitier the smoke the better...nut wood (hickory/pecan etc.) works better for more oilier fish like mackerels and especially "bluefish"...(salt brining is also important)... FWIW...Bluefish is one of the most commonly used smoked fish for the very popular (appetizer) spreads... The way I learned to cut fish for smoking is to split them from the top down...rather than splitting the belly (and gutting) then butter-flying...i.e., cut down along the dorsal (removing the backbone is an option) ....for many smoked fish (especially the more oilier varieties) the "belly meat" is the most flavorful and exotic tasting)... Try marinating some large shrimp (oxymoron) in olive oil, garlic and or some Italian dressing...apply heavy smoke at a very low temperature (no direct heat)...turn/baste every ten minutes or so until they start to turn opaque...chill and enjoy...!...too much heat will make the shell stick...
Thanks. I'm going to file your instructions. I'll need to convince my fishermen friends not to immediately filet the blues they catch.

The shrimp sounds delicious too. Have you done it with frozen shrimp?
 
   / BBQ Smokers #155  
I have an Oklahoma Joe Longhorn smoker. I have done a few mods to it and it cooks great! Here are the mods I have completed. Added cooking grate level thermometers, added cooking chamber lid and firebox lid gaskets, sealed leaks, smoke stack extension, added door latches, and added a cooking chamber baffle plate. With the mods I am able to have an even cooking chamber across the entire cooking chamber.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #156  
Thanks. I'm going to file your instructions. I'll need to convince my fishermen friends not to immediately filet the blues they catch.

The shrimp sounds delicious too. Have you done it with frozen shrimp?

The shrimp marinade is right on...I like to marinade a few large shrimp to compliment my rib eye steak; cooked on the grill of course. Sharn Jean likes me to add a bit of red wine to the marinade...it doesn't take long for them to cook on the grill, BTW. I have a SS perforated pan that I use.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #157  
Justin Wilson was a safety engineer... belt AND suspenders! :thumbsup:

How Y'All Are?


And a very funny one too...

"I'm glad for you to see me...I garonteeee...!"
 
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   / BBQ Smokers #158  
Thanks. I'm going to file your instructions. I'll need to convince my fishermen friends not to immediately filet the blues they catch.

The shrimp sounds delicious too. Have you done it with frozen shrimp?

To the best of my knowledge unless you have access to daily caught native shrimp or know a shrimp boat owner (or seafood processor) all shrimp have been frozen...even the ones you see in display cases on shaved ice etc... have been thawed out in the back under running water...

on a side note...There are a lot of folks that love shrimp but have never really tasted what they are supposed to taste like...unless you have caught them or bought them live and prepared them yourself or have been to a restaurant that offers (truly) "fresh shrimp" there is no comparison period...however most larger grocery store chains offer good selections of frozen native shrimp that are much better than the farm raised (foreign) offerings...

Hey I.T....The next time you're down in Clearwater check out 'Wards Seafood'...they are on south Greenwood...during the summer they often have fresh (off the boat) shrimp...
 
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   / BBQ Smokers #159  
While we're at it, here's the recipe for my all time favorite seafood cole slaw. I especially like it with fried catfish and corn dodgers.


SEAFOOD COLE SLAW

1 head of cabbage (approx. 2 pounds), Shredded
1 medium yellow onion
2 medium carrots, grated
1/4 cup sugar, plus one tablespoon 1/2 cup white vinegar
1/2 teaspoon dry mustard
1/2 teaspoon celery seed
1/3 cup salad oil
1 - 2 cloves garlic (or more, to taste)
1 teaspoon salt (or to taste)

Shred cabbage and onion. Mix in bowl with grated carrots. Cover with 1/4 cup of sugar and set aside.
Boil vinegar, 1 tablespoon sugar, mustard, celery seed and garlic. Pour over cabbage while hot. Mix
well, then stir in salad oil and salt. Cover and refrigerate overnight and serve cold.
This slaw is good anytime, but is especially good with fish and seafood.
 
   / BBQ Smokers #160  
So, I've done two "test burns" the last two nights.

First night I just followed the instructions. Full chimney of Kingsford briquets.

Started at 5:30pm
110 at 6:00
200 at 6:30
175 at 7:00
175 at 7:30

Shut it down at this point. As most said on the web, the charcoal simply gets smothered by the ash in the bowl.

Last night I switched the legs from inside to outside and set the bowl on some 2x2 square tubing. This means the entire smoker can be lifted off to access the coals instead of having to remove the lid, rack(s) with meat on them, and the water bowl. I also used one of the racks on top of the bowl to hold the coals up.

Started at 5:00
325 at 5:30 (water pan's boiling)
320 at 6:00
290 at 6:30
240 at 7:00
200 at 7:30

At this point the charcoal was pretty well all gone. I chalk up the high temps and short burn time to too much air... so last night I made up a 4" rotary vent with 4-5/8" holes for the lid. Next is to try to seal the lid better, then I'll do another test. The lid sits on 3 brackets that also hold the grill. There's probably a 1/4" gap between the lid and body. Two options would be to add a gasket to the lid to try and close that gap, or instal a flange that the lid sits on. I'm going to try the flange, as it won't cost me anything. One hitch is that the body has a rolled lip, so a flange the same diam as the inside of the body won't go passed the lip. It'll have to be made in two pieces. Wish me luck!

Here' are some pics for reference




Air goes between the bowl flange and body, up and out under the lid. I'm thinking I'll choke off the lid first and see if that gets me the results I'm looking for... if not then I'll move on to the bottom.
 

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