Bad Day at Block Rock - errrr - Make it Bad Year.

   / Bad Day at Block Rock - errrr - Make it Bad Year. #351  
Jeez Jim... hoping for a better day today for you. I have a similar task, I need to find my main water line coming into the house but I am afraid it is close to my power line. In the same ditch? It's been 30 years since it was laid. Got a general idea based on where the power meter is on my outside wall and where the water shut off in the inside wall is but.... I guess first task is to call the electrical company. Oh yeah I have a propane line from my tank buried in the vicinity too. Your story is making it easier to put the whole thing off!
 
   / Bad Day at Block Rock - errrr - Make it Bad Year. #352  
Some days nothing goes right and you just have to try another day. Keep the stories coming.
 
   / Bad Day at Block Rock - errrr - Make it Bad Year. #353  
Nevermind anyone who flings unsolicited advise about your world from their world. Irks me too.

Irks me when people don't control their dogs and they kill my livestock. Do you have livestock on your property and have someone else's dogs kill them costing you 1000s of dollars? My perspective from my world.
 
   / Bad Day at Block Rock - errrr - Make it Bad Year. #354  
Irks me when people don't control their dogs and they kill my livestock. Do you have livestock on your property and have someone else's dogs kill them costing you 1000s of dollars? My perspective from my world.

As a matter of fact, I have had several animals killed by dogs and wild animals. I do not raise livestock as my livelihood, but rest assured, I'm not foreign to damage from unkept dogs. Is Jim your neighbor? Have you visited his place to assess the situation yourself? Have Jim's dogs killed your animals? Then your advise about how he should handle his dogs is unsolicited/unwarranted. So is mine, and I do not lack frustration about unkept dogs.

I am working as we speak to handle a gang of unkept dogs on and around my property. But unless someone has visited my place and seen how it lays, their advice is nearly irrelevant.
 
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   / Bad Day at Block Rock - errrr - Make it Bad Year. #355  
As a matter of fact, I have had several animals killed by dogs and wild animals. I do not raise livestock as my livelihood, but rest assured, I'm not foreign to damage from unkept dogs. Is Jim your neighbor? Have you visited his place to assess the situation yourself? Have Jim's dogs killed your animals? Then your advise about how he should handle his dogs is unsolicited/unwrranted. So is mine, and I do not lack frustration about unkept dogs.
I am working as we speak to handle a gang of unkept dogs on and around my property. But unless someone has visited my place and seen how it lays, their advice is nearly irrelevant.


GreenYellow Country Dogs and City raised dogs when thrown out to get rid of act different. We live 8 miles from town so good area to toss unwanted animals. Sometimes Mother and Pups Same with Cats.
City Dogs never having seen a cow or large animal will chase or attempt to kill a smaller animal. Country Dogs will just ignore a cow .
We had a problem a few years ago some city bull dogs with ears clipped and tail docked that we learned later had been left with neighbor 1/2 mile away and they were to take care of them until the owner returned. Day time no problem stayed in yard.
Nighttime they chased cattle and learned how one would ham string a cow then the other would get under the neck and they brought the cow down. And then have a choice snack and return home gut full and sleep all day.

Begin to notice the calves would stay close to corral .they were cut and scratched from being ran into the barbed wire fence (5 strand) and some were out of the pasture so was rebuilding the fences .
In field with tractor saw these 2 pit bulls having there breakfast snack on a pedigreed Holstein calf yearling. and calf was still alive but close to death. Called the owner of the calf and described the dogs. We are to far from the city dog pound and Sherriff or deputy are never close to the area of need.
The owner driving to our place also saw the dogs returning to a trailer house drug into the woods almost hidden by trash. Took pictures of dogs and then pictures of the calf and other calves cut and scratched.
Rode in pick-up to where the dogs were . talked to lady in trailer she said not her dogs. shut door.
He made the mistake of getting his .22 rifle and shooting into the woods where the dog were. She came screen out of trailer and said they were being kept for some one else.
Now we were served a summons for animal abuse and shooting in a housing area. only building in 1/2 mile radius. and the owner of calf was fined 600 bucks for shooting at the dogs not hitting them. 850 for a lawyer
I had to appear in front of judge and there lawyer wanted me to attend a anger management class and be fined.

Cost me lawyers fee also.
Be careful of handling unkept dogs. There is several mentions in past of the 3 SSS Shoot Shovel and Shut up
The legal judges lawyers and police do not respect those who never appear in there area of jurisdiction.
Because you only pay taxes the group always getting caught pay the cost of legal wrangling. and putting money into the retirement fund .
And those who are critics of the owner for trying to keep healthy animals. and his fences upright.
Just explain to the PITA group People Eat These Animals.
ken
 
   / Bad Day at Block Rock - errrr - Make it Bad Year. #356  
Jim How about you taking some pictures of your "backyard" Find a hill tall enough to get a long range shot of Western Tucson.
Seldom like the western pictures made at Old Tucson desert where the Calvary led by John Wayne always rides in to save the wagon train.
What kind of rock did you find?
ken
 
   / Bad Day at Block Rock - errrr - Make it Bad Year. #357  
GreenYellow Country Dogs and City raised dogs when thrown out to get rid of act different. We live 8 miles from town so good area to toss unwanted animals. Sometimes Mother and Pups Same with Cats.
City Dogs never having seen a cow or large animal will chase or attempt to kill a smaller animal. Country Dogs will just ignore a cow .
We had a problem a few years ago some city bull dogs with ears clipped and tail docked that we learned later had been left with neighbor 1/2 mile away and they were to take care of them until the owner returned. Day time no problem stayed in yard.
Nighttime they chased cattle and learned how one would ham string a cow then the other would get under the neck and they brought the cow down. And then have a choice snack and return home gut full and sleep all day.

Begin to notice the calves would stay close to corral .they were cut and scratched from being ran into the barbed wire fence (5 strand) and some were out of the pasture so was rebuilding the fences .
In field with tractor saw these 2 pit bulls having there breakfast snack on a pedigreed Holstein calf yearling. and calf was still alive but close to death. Called the owner of the calf and described the dogs. We are to far from the city dog pound and Sherriff or deputy are never close to the area of need.
The owner driving to our place also saw the dogs returning to a trailer house drug into the woods almost hidden by trash. Took pictures of dogs and then pictures of the calf and other calves cut and scratched.
Rode in pick-up to where the dogs were . talked to lady in trailer she said not her dogs. shut door.
He made the mistake of getting his .22 rifle and shooting into the woods where the dog were. She came screen out of trailer and said they were being kept for some one else.
Now we were served a summons for animal abuse and shooting in a housing area. only building in 1/2 mile radius. and the owner of calf was fined 600 bucks for shooting at the dogs not hitting them. 850 for a lawyer
I had to appear in front of judge and there lawyer wanted me to attend a anger management class and be fined.

Cost me lawyers fee also.
Be careful of handling unkept dogs. There is several mentions in past of the 3 SSS Shoot Shovel and Shut up
The legal judges lawyers and police do not respect those who never appear in there area of jurisdiction.
Because you only pay taxes the group always getting caught pay the cost of legal wrangling. and putting money into the retirement fund .
And those who are critics of the owner for trying to keep healthy animals. and his fences upright.
Just explain to the PITA group People Eat These Animals.
ken

I hear ya Ken. It's frustrating as heck. Infuriating, actually. I live about 15 miles from city limits and we get our share of dumped dogs. We also have our share of irresponsible owners -- many of whom I have had civil conversations with regarding this. Out of the 6 I have talked to, all of them said "do what you gotta do if you catch my dog in the act". That's really the last thing I want to do -- kill someone's dog. But this has been a long problem and the owners have no intention of fixing it. I am obligated to protect my animals, kids, and family. And that's what I intend to do... There's already been plenty of bloodshed of my own animals, and nearly my kids. I've talked to the sheriff's office a couple times about it, and 2 different deputies told me to do whatever it took to protect my property ON MY property. They warned against hunting down any dog elsewhere, no matter how guilty it was. (as in your friends unfortunate example)

I keep my dogs in a fence for this very reason. However, I still feel the same way about not bashing Jim for not keeping his dogs in a pen. That's part of living "out". There's less rules... Sometimes that's good -- sometimes that's not so good. Either way, we can't draw conclusions and fling advice. Especially to someone who (clearly) has as much life experience as Jim. (just my opinion)
 
   / Bad Day at Block Rock - errrr - Make it Bad Year. #358  
Let's please not derail Jim's thread.
 
   / Bad Day at Block Rock - errrr - Make it Bad Year. #359  
Maybe Y'all that keep complaining about loose dogs can voice all that on your own thread.
I have had dogs that say home with no fence and dogs that will even climb a fence to get out.
So no matter what we did...............the dog was gone. So if you never been to Jim's house, you don't know everything going on there. Get over it and post your own thread.
Brandi
 

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