Backhoe backhoe parking pad

[moosetracks]

Hi, I'm wondering what kind of surface is needed for parking the hoe for a B series when off the tractor? Is concrete needed or will gravel do? I'm starting with clay soil and hope to parking the hoe in the tractor shed (I haven't built yet by the way). If so , what size would do. I will be hand mixing any concrete needed. Also, how about the tiller, does it need a firm pad? Boy this tractoring stuff has a steep learning curve !!

Moosetracks

 

[ronjhall]

moosetracks
I have a BH and Tiller for my B2910. Neither of these attachments are easy to put on the tractor. I do have them stored in a barn with concrete floor.
I have made a dolly for both of them, that has made the operation much easier.
Your pad for just the BH should be about 16' X 6'. This will allow the tractor and BH to be on slab when mounting the BH.
Tiller can be put on with less length then the BH pad.

 

[txdon]

Ronjhall has the ultimate BH pad with concrete and dollies. On the other end of the spectrum is my KISS pad - sand and plywood . My next barn will have the dolly pad. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[GregJ]

I "store" my BH on my tractor. Whenever I need to use another implement, I just drop it in the yard on a level surface. I don't have enough room to store it in my shop. I can drop it in about 5 minutes and put it back on in about 10. I added telescoping links to my 3pt. this last spring and that has made it even easier getting the BH back on. There have been a few times where my BH has been sitting out for about a week when I've been using my chipper or pallet forks for more than a day, but usually I am only using the other implements for one day projects.

RonJHall has the best solution though. Dollies and space. That would be nice.... I'm envious.

Greg

 

[Jim_Becker]

Mine is pretty much on the ground...I did put a piece of scrap plywood down to keep the weeds down, but otherwise...it's just the good earth to cusion the 'hoe between uses. During the winter, it gets "stored" on the tractor and is my ballast when pushing snow with the FEL.

 

[bam]

I take my backhoe off on a gravel drive. I find it to be just fine for now. It comes off and goes on easier than the loader.

 

[GregJ]

I just finished making a new dolly for my chipper, so I just dropped my BH. I measured the length of my tractor from the tip of the toothbar to the end of the BH bucket with the boom and dipper extended to the ground. It is 20 feet from end to end. The stabilizers are 9 feet wide when extended down to remove the BH. So that's the total footprint. Hope this helps.

Greg

 

[RayH]

I drop my BH on gravel or asphalt. If I drop it on the asphalt, I make sure to put something under the stabilizers to keep them from sinking. Wherever you drop it, make sure to put blocks of wood, concrete blocks, or any kind of support under the center of the BH otherwise if you let it sit for any time at all, the hydraulics will leak down on the stabilizers and leave it too low to hook back up. My hydro lines arent long enough to get the pump onto the PTO if I let the thing relax on the ground, its got to be high enough for me to get the upper mount over the PTO shaft and PTO cover. I learned this the hard way the first time I removed it. Sometimes I think the BH is easier to hookup than other implements, such as my box blade, because you can use the BH hydraulics to line it up just right.

 

[PineRidge]

The floor of my pole barn is concrete so I drop my BH on two heavy wheeled furniture dollies. Once the BH is resting on the dollies I then raise both stabilizers and tie them together with nylon rope to keep them in a stored position. The dollies also make reattachment of the BH much easier as it a lot easier to move the BH than the TC-40D within the pole barn.

 

[RayH]

Pine,
Thats an excellent idea about tieing the stabilizers together. Im going to trey that and a set of dollies to move it around the garage or driveway.

 

[hacker]

I left my backhoe on soft ground just past my the edge of my gravel driveway for a week once. Big mistake. It had setteled into the ground so much that the hydraulic pressure in the hoe was too great to get it plugged back in to the tractor hydraulics. When I finally figured out what the problem was, I got out a car jack and jacked up the backhoe to take the pressure off. Nothing like an extra half and hour on a five minute job.

I will be building a pad in my tractor barn, when I get around to building that.... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Peace,
Hacker

 

[TORQUIN]

I've got a BH90, and heard all of the surface recommendations from the dealer when I bought the tractor. I also read in the manual about what it says. I will tell you from experience that it doesn't matter. I drop my hoe on the ground in the woods out back, on a hill, just because that's the most convenient place to put it, out of the way. The only problem I had was after the first time I disconnected it and left it for 3 days, the stabilizers leaked down anought that I could not get the subfram under the BH. This was when I found out the dealer did not make the hoses long enough to connect without the subframe being UNDER the BH. I had to tilt the back end of the tractor to get it under the BH by lifting the front end with the FEL. The dealer then got the tractor back to lengthen the hydraulic hoses under warranty.

Why warranty? Well, after I showed him in the manual where Kubota recommends you retract the stabilizers completely, after disconnecting from the tractor, and resting the BH on the ground, I asked him if he could tell me how to do it the way I am "supposed to" with the lines as short as they were. He took care of it for free.

Now it doesn't matter if it leaks down (no, I don't retract the stabilizers completely like the manual says), I just connect the lines and lift it up, then back the tractor under it. As far as the unlevel ground goes, it doesn't matter since I can make all of the adjustments with the BH hydraulics. I don't see any time difference in hook up or removal when on level ground vs. the hill I usually use.

Chris

 

[moosetracks]

Torquin, Thanks for the reply. I'm currently planning a gravel pad (under roof) for the TLB which is where the hoe will reside when off. Hopefully that will stay dry and be fairly stable. Guess I'll find out.

Moosetracks

 

[Henro]

Hi,

I put a couple pins through the holes at the bottom of the backhoe, and put a jackstand under each side. The jackstands I have are made such that they have flat pieces of metal on the ends of each corner, so they don't sink in to the dirt, even in summer when the backhoe is sitting out in the weather.

When I have it in the shed in winter, I do the same thing on my dirt floor, but raise the stabilizers up and tie them together.

I don't know if my PTO pump has long enough hoses on it to set the thing on the ground or not. I do know that with it up on the jack stands it makes is pretty easy to put the PTO pump on without a struggle. When the hoe is stored outside, I leave the stabilizers down on the ground, just in case one of the jack stands would sink in, but so far I have not found that to be a problem.

Works for me... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif