B3350 HP

[sarti]

What is the correct HP on the B3350 some say 30 like the Kubota web site,, others are saying 33

Also have the new ones changed over to rail injection

thanks

 

[ovrszd]

TractorData.com - information on all makes and models of tractors says 33HP gross engine, 27HP PTO.

Great website full of tractor data.

 

[sarti]

just saw where the LX is going to take the place of the B,,I guess I will wait and see what comes

 

[moship]

Why would you question the published data from Kubota and who are "others"?

According to Kubota's own web site, they list the gross HP as 30.8 and 27HP at PTO.

https://www.kubotausa.com/products/tractors/compact/b50#specifications

Kubota is releasing a new LX Series that is reported to replace the B2650/B3350.

 

[sarti]

tractor data and a few other places selling tractors,,not really sure all the info on kubotas web site is a sure thing,,I will go talk to my dealer

 

[RjCorazza]

just saw where the LX is going to take the place of the B,,I guess I will wait and see what comes

Absolutely wait. The B3350 has been a very problematic machine.

 

[SDT]

What is the correct HP on the B3350 some say 30 like the Kubota web site,, others are saying 33

Also have the new ones changed over to rail injection

thanks

According to the published specs in the Kubota sales brochure dated 06/16, which I have in my hand, Engine gross HP is 33.0 (SAE J1995) and PTO HP is 27.0.

I have been "told" that the HP rating of the forthcoming LX 3310 will be the same.

SDT

 

[SDT]

just saw where the LX is going to take the place of the B,,I guess I will wait and see what comes

Yes, the LX 3310 will replace the B3350 and is expected at the dealers in the spring.

The LX series will have a similar 4 cylinder engine with a common rail injection system and an emissions system similar to that used on other Kubota tractors that have been much less troublesome. There will be some other improvements/enhancements as well, e.g., drive in FEL with auto connect 4 hose hydraulic manifold, etc. You can also expect a price increase.

HP rating will remain the same as the 3350.

SDT

 

[SDT]

tractor data and a few other places selling tractors,,not really sure all the info on kubotas web site is a sure thing,,I will go talk to my dealer

I use tractordata specs only as starting points as there are many inaccuracies therein.

SDT

 

[ovrszd]

Unless you put your tractor on a Dyno, isn't all written information about it speculation and possibly riddled with inaccuracies? Thus all things you read are simply a guide.

An example of this is the current emissions issues. The guides used to determine HP have softened. A slight blurring of accuracy is now acceptable. There is no enforceable regulatory guidance required. The manufacturers wiggle around in this soft goo all the time.

 

[moship]

I guess everyone is right. It all depends on what type of HP is being referenced.

From wholegoods listing 2016:

B3350HSD...................... B3350HSDC
SAE Gross HP: 33.0 ........ SAE Gross HP: 33.0
Engine Net HP: 29.6 ....... Engine Net HP: 29.6
PTO HP: 27.0 ................. PTO HP: 27.0
Ei Mdl V1505 ................. Ei Mdl V1505

Net and PTO are the only relevant numbers above in my opinion. Unless your willing to run your engine without water pump, fan or alternator.

 

[ovrszd]

I guess everyone is right. It all depends on what type of HP is being referenced.

From wholegoods listing 2016:

B3350HSD...................... B3350HSDC
SAE Gross HP: 33.0 ........ SAE Gross HP: 33.0
Engine Net HP: 29.6 ....... Engine Net HP: 29.6
PTO HP: 27.0 ................. PTO HP: 27.0
Ei Mdl V1505 ................. Ei Mdl V1505

Net and PTO are the only relevant numbers above in my opinion. Unless your willing to run your engine without water pump, fan or alternator.

Well stated and proven. Much better than my rambling explanation above.

 

[Chewwy]

And then there are tractors with actual test results by the Nebraska Tractor Test Lab. Sadly there are no test results for the B3350. Nebraska does not require testing tractors with 40 HP or less. (Unclear if this 40 HP limit is gross or net.)

 

[SDT]

Unless you put your tractor on a Dyno, isn't all written information about it speculation and possibly riddled with inaccuracies? Thus all things you read are simply a guide.

An example of this is the current emissions issues. The guides used to determine HP have softened. A slight blurring of accuracy is now acceptable. There is no enforceable regulatory guidance required. The manufacturers wiggle around in this soft goo all the time.

Note the SAE spec referenced above.

I would trust the manufacturer's published specs before I would trust any dealers dyno.

SDT

 

[angelo c]

What is the correct HP on the B3350 some say 30 like the Kubota web site,, others are saying 33

Also have the new ones changed over to rail injection

thanks

any particular reason why 33hp or 29.6hp would make a difference in this tractor ? Just Curious as Im a new to Orange guy.

 

[ovrszd]

Note the SAE spec referenced above.

I would trust the manufacturer's published specs before I would trust any dealers dyno.

SDT

And with all due respect, I'd be just the opposite. Manufacturers will state HP and not disclose that it's determined mathematically without any accessories. Is that honest?

 

[ovrszd]

any particular reason why 33hp or 29.6hp would make a difference in this tractor ? Just Curious as Im a new to Orange guy.

Because 29.6 is 90% of 33. If it's okay with you that the manufacturer's machine only produces 90% of it's claimed power, then it's okay with me.

 

[RickB]

Ahh for the days of the Bosch A and P inline injection pumps. Horsepower was as far away as your 10mm wrench and screwdriver.

 

[angelo c]

Because 29.6 is 90% of 33. If it's okay with you that the manufacturer's machine only produces 90% of it's claimed power, then it's okay with me.

very constructive answer. thanks.

 

[SDT]

Because 29.6 is 90% of 33. If it's okay with you that the manufacturer's machine only produces 90% of it's claimed power, then it's okay with me.

Seems to me that it produces precisely what is claimed. 33 Gross HP is 33 gross HP, which is what is stated in the sales brochure. 27.0 PTO HP is 27.0 PTO HP, which is what is stated in the sales brochure.

I fail to see how anyone can interpret this to mean that the engine does not produce the HP, gross or PTO, that Kubota claims that it does.

SDT