B2320 3 point binding

   / B2320 3 point binding #1  

gmryanmcduffee

New member
Joined
Oct 7, 2018
Messages
8
Tractor
b2320
Last year I had issues with lifting my mmm all the way up it would bind the 3 point and always be lifting. To lower I would turn off engine and lift repeatedly and the 3 point would slowly lower until it was no longer bound. I adjusted the adjustment arm so that it would limit the up just enougjt to keep the mmm wheels off the ground. In the fall I removed the mmm and noticed the binding up eventually went away.

Today I put the mmm back on and the mower deck would not raise enough to get the wheels off the ground. I adjusted the arm again and it went back to binding.

This is super annoying and I guess not great on the Hydraulics or levers. Has anyone dealt with a similar issue or have any ideas on what to focus on?

Thanks, ryan
 
   / B2320 3 point binding #2  
Ryan:
Check the swivels where the check chains attach to the tractor. Sometimes they could bind.
 
   / B2320 3 point binding
  • Thread Starter
#3  
Ryan:
Check the swivels where the check chains attach to the tractor. Sometimes they could bind.
Ran out and checked. They are not the bind point. It is in the lever assembly it feels like. I readjusted the limits and it is just at the edge of binding and just enough heights to let the deck wheels clear.
 
   / B2320 3 point binding #4  
I have no magic answer here but ... suggest you check every single part of the suspension of the deck on both sides. Wiggle it around & it should feel equally free, both sides. Do that process with the deck all the way up and then retry with it all the way down. First guess being the suspension linkage and the deck are not QUITE on right -- yet it was that way last year --- hmmm. Maybe the linkage is connected correctly on one side but not other ? Unlikely two years in a row. Close inspection: anything bent ? You have a "clevis" arrangement both right and left just above the spring loaded pins that hold the deck on. One of those clevises bent/squeezed tight to where it binds ? (They should be loose and free to allow vertical movement.)

How about the deck cutting height adjustment knob and related linkage ? With the hydraulic all the way "up" does the adjustment knob turn with reasonable effort ?

What is the discussion about chain ? There no chain involved on the BX2200, 2300 and 2230 I've worked on. "Adjusting an arm?" What arm are you referring to ?
 
   / B2320 3 point binding
  • Thread Starter
#5  
I have no magic answer here but ... suggest you check every single part of the suspension of the deck on both sides. Wiggle it around & it should feel equally free, both sides. Do that process with the deck all the way up and then retry with it all the way down. First guess being the suspension linkage and the deck are not QUITE on right -- yet it was that way last year --- hmmm. Maybe the linkage is connected correctly on one side but not other ? Unlikely two years in a row. Close inspection: anything bent ? You have a "clevis" arrangement both right and left just above the spring loaded pins that hold the deck on. One of those clevises bent/squeezed tight to where it binds ? (They should be loose and free to allow vertical movement.)

How about the deck cutting height adjustment knob and related linkage ? With the hydraulic all the way "up" does the adjustment knob turn with reasonable effort ?

What is the discussion about chain ? There no chain involved on the BX2200, 2300 and 2230 I've worked on. "Adjusting an arm?" What arm are you referring to ?
Here are the check chains. Not much of a chain I guess. Also the implement adjustment. I will check the deck alignment but it hooked up easy but maybe it could be misaligned. I have adjusted the cutting height with not much issue to make me think it could be the cause.

Thanks Screenshot_20190413-173604_Drive.jpgScreenshot_20190413-173547_Drive.jpg
 
   / B2320 3 point binding #6  
Those are just sway bars/chains for keeping the lift arms positioned left and right and to avoid swinging 3pt implements too far left and right. No relationship to raising/lowering your mower deck.
 
   / B2320 3 point binding
  • Thread Starter
#7  
Ok. They were what I looked at and they were not bound up so that works
 
   / B2320 3 point binding #8  
I cannot be certain this image is of your exact tractor.
From looking at the photos you included I do not see one of the 3 pt feedback system so I wonder if you are not considering it.

QXtxJpV.jpg


pNDY2gn.jpg


I further assume your mmm relies on a rod(s) link to the 3 pt lift arms.

Make certain the feedback system is able to operate properly.

I would also suggest you disconnect the lift rods from the 3 pt hitch. You want to make the lower 3 pt arms free floating so they can pivot about their inner end manually.
Place a wood 4 x 4 under the lift arms and slowly try jacking the lift arms up.
If the problem lies with the mmm mechanism it should become apparent during the jacking.

Your goal is to identify where the difficulty arises.

Dave M7040
 

Attachments

  • Forum Feedback link 1.jpg
    Forum Feedback link 1.jpg
    125.6 KB · Views: 133
  • Forum Feedback link 2.jpg
    Forum Feedback link 2.jpg
    194 KB · Views: 156
   / B2320 3 point binding
  • Thread Starter
#9  
Thanks. I will check this out next opportunity.
 
   / B2320 3 point binding
  • Thread Starter
#10  
I cannot be certain this image is of your exact tractor.
From looking at the photos you included I do not see one of the 3 pt feedback system so I wonder if you are not considering it.

QXtxJpV.jpg


pNDY2gn.jpg


I further assume your mmm relies on a rod(s) link to the 3 pt lift arms.

Make certain the feedback system is able to operate properly.

I would also suggest you disconnect the lift rods from the 3 pt hitch. You want to make the lower 3 pt arms free floating so they can pivot about their inner end manually.
Place a wood 4 x 4 under the lift arms and slowly try jacking the lift arms up.
If the problem lies with the mmm mechanism it should become apparent during the jacking.

Your goal is to identify where the difficulty arises.

Dave M7040
The feedback lever binds up. It is 100% tied to this mechanism
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

Enclosed Trailer (A52377)
Enclosed Trailer...
Sims Snow Board (A51573)
Sims Snow Board...
2001 J ODell 16ft Enclosed T/A Trailer (A51691)
2001 J ODell 16ft...
2010 Chevrolet Tahoe SUV (A52377)
2010 Chevrolet...
Polaris Sportsman 500 (A51573)
Polaris Sportsman...
2023 LMC M40018 LOT NUMBER 176 (A53084)
2023 LMC M40018...
 
Top