B series AC question

[dsb5610]

Yellowdogsvc,

The drain tube on the 'A' is located on the drivers side of the boom lift cylinder. I did not have to remove the skid pan that goatman mentioned to get to the tube but I did remove it to clean the debris from it as well. Not easy to get to but you should be able to slide your hand in next to the cylinder and feel around for the tube. The end of the tube is almost flush with the floorpan. It is not very big and has a closed end similar to the drain on your air filter. I was able to get a long screwdriver in mine and work it around. I did get out some dirt and a few dribbles of water.

Hope that helps.

dsb

 

[jmfox]

Where is this water coming from? Is it condenser discharge or condensation?

jmf

 

[Willl]

OK I'll bite, what is "condenser discharge" ?

 

[jmfox]

Air conditioning cools by removing air bourne humidity via condensation coils (condenser) which discharge (water) outside of the air conditioned space. You might notice moisture puddle under the vehicle when you park your air conditioned car. It wouldn't make sense to put the moisture into the space you are trying to cool.

jmf

 

[Willl]

Wrong.

A/C cools by removing heat from the air through the evaporator.

Warm air can hold more water than cool air.

During heat removal, the water collects on the evaporator fins till there's enough to flow down to the collector tray/pan.


The 'condenser' coil is the warm/hot one. If you were following the refrigerant flow, it's directly after the compressor.

 

[dsb5610]

hahaha, some of these posts are perty funny.

I had a chance to run the Toolcat for a while today. Before I did I took a q-tip bent in half and rubber banded it to the end of the long screwdriver. I was able to use this to further clean out the drain tube. After running for a while I let it sit for a bit and watched it drip water. I will add this to my regular grease maintenance steps. Figure I have to slide under the Toolcat to grease the bottom of the boom cylinder so while I am there it won't take much to clear the drain tube.

dsb

 

[jmfox]

Wrong.

Air is warm because of the thermal conductivity of the suspender water molecules, but indeed it is more than a dehumidifier. Here is an explanation of humidity relative to the air conditioning process from Wiki:

Refrigeration air conditioning equipment usually reduces the humidity of the air processed by the system. The relatively cold (below the dewpoint) evaporator coil condenses water vapor from the processed air, (much like an ice cold drink will condense water on the outside of a glass), sending the water to a drain and removing water vapor from the cooled space and lowering the relative humidity. Since humans perspire to provide natural cooling by the evaporation of perspiration from the skin, drier air (up to a point) improves the comfort provided.

It would be difficult to decrease the temperature of the water molecules and keep them in suspension/vapor. If not the process of air conditioning, a decrease in humidity is necessary and a sought after benefit. Lowering the humidity to 40% to 60% relative humidity is what we expect from a comfortable environment. For purposes here this is the source of the condenser discharge/water.

jmf

 

[Willl]

Air is warm because of the thermal conductivity of the suspender water molecules, but indeed it is more than a dehumidifier. Here is an explanation of humidity relative to the air conditioning process from Wiki:

Refrigeration air conditioning equipment usually reduces the humidity of the air processed by the system. The relatively cold (below the dewpoint) evaporator coil condenses water vapor from the processed air, (much like an ice cold drink will condense water on the outside of a glass), sending the water to a drain and removing water vapor from the cooled space and lowering the relative humidity. Since humans perspire to provide natural cooling by the evaporation of perspiration from the skin, drier air (up to a point) improves the comfort provided.

It would be difficult to decrease the temperature of the water molecules and keep them in suspension/vapor. If not the process of air conditioning, a decrease in humidity is necessary and a sought after benefit. Lowering the humidity to 40% to 60% relative humidity is what we expect from a comfortable environment. For purposes here this is the source of the condenser discharge/water.

jmf

And all this takes place in the condenser coil ?

 

[yellowdogsvc]

Yellowdogsvc,

The drain tube on the 'A' is located on the drivers side of the boom lift cylinder. I did not have to remove the skid pan that goatman mentioned to get to the tube but I did remove it to clean the debris from it as well. Not easy to get to but you should be able to slide your hand in next to the cylinder and feel around for the tube. The end of the tube is almost flush with the floorpan. It is not very big and has a closed end similar to the drain on your air filter. I was able to get a long screwdriver in mine and work it around. I did get out some dirt and a few dribbles of water.

Hope that helps.

dsb

This may help tremendously. i will keep you all posted. Thanks!

 

[yellowdogsvc]

hahaha, some of these posts are perty funny.

I had a chance to run the Toolcat for a while today. Before I did I took a q-tip bent in half and rubber banded it to the end of the long screwdriver. I was able to use this to further clean out the drain tube. After running for a while I let it sit for a bit and watched it drip water. I will add this to my regular grease maintenance steps. Figure I have to slide under the Toolcat to grease the bottom of the boom cylinder so while I am there it won't take much to clear the drain tube.

dsb

I have been using ramps to get under there with my creeper. I will look on my b series and see if it is the same. Makes sense.