AZ ranch

[BoFuller]

Woo Hoo!! The County just called and I now have a permit!!!
15 months of torture, but they said it is ready to pick up.
Of course, they want an additional $5K in fees, but at last I can get started!!

 

[ENG18LT]

Bo, let me be the first to say congratulations and OUCH. I am astonished at what you have endured to get the permit. My hat's off to you sir, you are the king of patience and perseverance.

I look forward to seeing your progress.

 

[tnmike]

Congrats!! You are far more patient than anyone I know. Now show us some construction.

What was the total cost of the permit?

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Woo Hoo!! The County just called and I now have a permit!!!
15 months of torture, but they said it is ready to pick up.
Of course, they want an additional $5K in fees, but at last I can get started!!

5K$ for what? How much were the original fees? Thanks for warning me about moving and trying to build in Arizona.

 

[BoFuller]

5K$ for what? How much were the original fees? Thanks for warning me about moving and trying to build in Arizona.

Application fee was $400 and Septic was $265 for the county. Then their nitpicking caused me to spend $2500 on the engineer and $2000 for a soils test.
Now the rest of the building permit fee is about $1500, the Road Use fee is about $3500, and then fees for Solar permit, and other misc items. They get you coming and going.

 

[Ken]

Mr. Fuller Glad at last the permit is going to be approved. About 35 pages back typed the pickeness of the building inspectors were when we built the Compressor Sta. East of town and worked on the city airport.

Back when the trains still dumped the ashes and clinkers west of town. to refill with coal and water to get on to Flagstaff.
Sure looking forward to a picture of the first log sitting in place.

ken

 

[mjncad]

Woo Hoo!! The County just called and I now have a permit!!!
15 months of torture, but they said it is ready to pick up.
Of course, they want an additional $5K in fees, but at last I can get started!!

Congratulations on getting your permit Bo. I can sympathize with you as I'm dealing with Gummint inDUHviduals on a CRP (Conservation Resource Program) fiasco for our 35-acre boondoggle east of Denver. Another $5,000 in fees is outrageous. Are you sure you don't live in California?

 

[treetopflyer]

Bo, glad you finally can move forward. I've read every page and even subscribed so I wouldn't miss any updates. I've got 72 acres in Cochise county and am looking build a load bearing wall straw bale home. I hope they are a little more trusting of the engineering data? Keep up the great work, this is an inspirational thread.
Doug in Yuma

 

[schmism]

Application fee was $400 and Septic was $265 for the county. Then their nitpicking caused me to spend $2500 on the engineer and $2000 for a soils test.

soils test is required to determine the perk rate for the soil. depending on soil type will dictate the septic type. this is why the septic needs to be designed by (or approved by) and engineer.

your in AZ were well water is several hundred feet deep (ive read you have to go as deep as 1000' in some places now) not so in IL were "poor" septic systems cause all sorts of problems for shallow wells for livestock and the like.

so no i dont consider EPA requirements for septic systems to be "nitpicking". I like my drinking water you know... drinkable.

 

[BoFuller]

Actually I had my septic put in before the referred to soils test. I have no problem with perk testing. This soils test was strictly for foundation planning. All the local contractors said I had to go down 36 inches, but I had to pay some company to come out and tell me the same thing. Rip off.

 

[BoFuller]

And you're correct, I would have to go down 1,000 for a well.

 

[nolewatcher]

I started following this thread with interest two years ago. I didn't come back to it until a week ago and was surprised at the slow start you've had. I do understand it completely however. My wife and I built our home as owner/builder here in North Florida in 2006. It took us 4 long months working every day to get our permits, and much cost. I appreciate all you have gone through. Our government IS OUT OF CONTROL. It is no longer 'of the people, by the people', rather, 'out to get the people'!

With that said, I think you have done some very good things, and I plan to follow this thread with vivid interest. I really have enjoyed TBN these past few weeks. Reading threads like this is better entertainment than TV, etc. so, thanks for your continuing story. The more pictures you can include, the more interesting it is...even your welding! It held, that is what is important.

 

[BoFuller]

Thanks for the encouraging words. I intend for the progress to be greatly accelerated now that we have the permit. We meet with our concrete guy Friday!

 

[BoFuller]

I stopped at the County office today and actually got my permit. It feels like such an accomplishment to physically have it in my hands. What a journey.
Now, tomorrow morning the concrete contractor is suppose to meet me here at the site to see about getting started. Woo Hoo!

 

[955Lincoln]

I stopped at the County office today and actually got my permit. It feels like such an accomplishment to physically have it in my hands. What a journey.
Now, tomorrow morning the concrete contractor is suppose to meet me here at the site to see about getting started. Woo Hoo!

:thumbsup:

 

[mjncad]

Congratulations Bo! I swear there is something pumped into the HVAC systems of Gummint offices from Federal to local that takes away the common sense of people who work in those places. I dealt with a Gummint bureaucrat today regarding the CRP on our 35-acre boondoggle. I swear he still was harping about a seed drill that the only guy I could get to disk and plant <3-acres of dirt. Our CRP fiasco reminded me of when I worked at NREL, the DOE's renewable energy lab. Things that should take a week or less took what seemed like an eternity. Here's hoping you have the wind at your back, and a star to steer your tall ship by as you move forward with your project.

 

[Oliver1655]

WOW! Sorry to hear about you challenges with permits. I guess I should feel blessed I only had one to fight with. Here in central-rural Missouri the only permit/inspection I had was for my septic system & it was a head ache enough! Since I was putting it in myself I was required to attend a class. This in itself wouldn't have been too bad but it was only offered ever 4 - 6 months. The first available class was a 2 month wait, again not too bad. WRONG! I showed up for the class to find it was cancelled & I was not notified. No reason was given for cancellation. As the next class would not be until September, I asked if I could get an exception so I could get my family moved in before school started. I was told no. I went a head & dug the ditches anyway, laid the drainage rock & the drain pipe figuring as long as I did not cover anything, once I got the permit, I could have it inspected then cover it & have it completed it a day. Well, apparently the company I had bought my septic tank from reports sales to the county health department & 2 hours after delivery, the health inspector was out there with a stop order. Fortunately I has already done as much as I could until I was inspected anyway. However I had to question his qualifications as an inspector. I was using a level taped to a spare piece of drain pipe which had a spacer on the low end to which set on top of the piece I was setting to grade. Since he did not see a transit, he couldn't believe I could lay the pipe to grade. It took a while for him to understand how I was doing it & why since I was working by myself a transit was not a viable option. A month later I went to the 4 hour class which was a total waste of time. The speaker did not cover the basic requirements for putting in a septic system but rather alternative methods being trialed in other states that Missouri was considering approving. After the class I went to get my permit & had to speak the health inspector's supervisor. She asked why I didn't ask for an exception earlier when I found out the first class I registered for was canceled. I looked at the inspector & let his supervisor know I did try but was told they did not give exceptions. She verified with the inspector he had told me this. She then asked when I would be available for an inspection & I said any time. She told me to give her a half hour to talk with her inspector & then she would send him out. When he came out he was there for 5 minutes, passed it & left. So what should have only taken me 3 days took close to 6 months to do. PS there was not a fine.

John

 

[BoFuller]

Yes, they just don't get the fact that they are suppose to be working for us, not being in charge of us.

 

[mjncad]

Oliver: How much did that class cost you money wise just to hear someone drone on about anything and everything not related to your needs? What you went through sounds similar to the hassle I'm having with the CRP (Conservation Resource Program) bureaucrats I'm dealing with. I call CRP...CRaP. I only signed up for it to lower our sky high property taxes on some vacant land we own. Otherwise the less I have to deal with Gummint zombies the better.

 

[Oliver1655]

$50.00