Anyone pull a moldboard plow behind a two wheeler?

[oldmech]

Hi! I have now my new moldboardplow. Thanks to ALDO BIAGIOLI&FIGLI the maker very wellmake . I like the fully adjustable hitch (A NEED). I look for setting and possibility with my GRILLO 107d. I find I need 15-16 in. (40cm) between or inside wheels. For possibility May be 6-7 in. (18cm) in. max width and 5-6 in. (15cm) max. depth This could be OK for me. I could try this Plough next spring. I am working on new steel wheels.Good luck ! Oldmech

 

[2manyrocks]

Nice plow. May I say that it is a compliment to its maker for you buy this new plow instead of making your own. I always enjoy seeing your workmanship on your other projects, and I hope you enjoy this new plow.

 

[farmerboybill]

Hey all,

I got my Plow! It's even a two way unit. It was a bit of an adventure to get it. I bought it from a gentleman in Seattle WA and had to hire someone to haul it 2000 miles to me in WI. The bigger catch was the seller wouldn't separate it out from the other equipment he had for sale, so I now have to sell a sickle mower, SEP mower, and a 735 Diesel with 26 inch tiller. Sure wish I could keep 'em but I just can't :-(

I'm gonna need to find a way to attach some weight to the back as it doesn't balance with the engine very well. I'm also gonna need to dish out the tires and mount more axle extensions. Hopefully, I'll be able to plow with turf tires because I can't swing the 400 bucks it would take to buy ag tread tires. I'll mount my tire chains if traction is an issue. I should have plenty of weight with the axle mounted plate weights. I have 82.5 lbs per side on it with a potential for 100 or more lbs.

Now, I just need some weather cooperation.

Bill in WI

 

[2manyrocks]

......have to sell a sickle mower, SEP mower, and a 735 Diesel with 26 inch tiller

You must really have wanted that plow, but I'll give you plenty of credit for selling the rest cuz when I buy a bunch of stuff to get a particular item, seems like I never get around to selling the rest of it.

A 735 diesel sounds like a great piece of equipment. Please post some pictures of it and of the rest of what you bought.

 

[farmerboybill]

I'll do you one better, Here a link to the video I posted on Youtube of the diesel running.

YouTube - 1982 BCS Mainline 735 Diesel two wheel tractor with sickle mower


...And I have lots of incentive to sell it - maintaining marital bliss!

Bill in WI

 

[oldmech]

Hi! Congratulation! For your new moldboard plow. I think we need about 16 in. inside wheels . Chains is a need with turf tires.
I seen your video 735 diesel Very good! Are tines of tiller very used half or more . Engine is a ACME MOTORI DIESEL may be ADN 37W. I know Acme diesel Very good industrial engine. How much are you asking For 735 diesel with tiller. You could sold it very fast if price is good. Good luck! Oldmech

 

[2manyrocks]

It would be hard to turn loose of that 753.

 

[farmerboybill]

Hey oldmech,

I posted another video with the tiller that I didn't provide the link. You can find it easy enough by searching "BCS 735 diesel". That one shows it with the hood installed. I took it off to work on it. The tines are rusty but show very little use. You're right about the engine being an ADN 37. Hope I don't need the chains, but I do have a set all made up for them.

Rub it in, 2manyrocks :-( Posted on Madison, WI craigslist a couple days ago and no bites yet. I had a lot of bites a couple weeks ago until I listed the asking price of $1100. Musta been a lot of lowballers.

 

[2manyrocks]

Sorry.

You're keeping a gas unit and selling this diesel 853? I'm not familiar with these machines. I remember looking at a small one in the mid 1980's, but since then, I haven't even seen one in person. What features does the one you're keeping have that you prefer over the diesel?

 

[farmerboybill]

Hey,

It's a 735. They're a great unit, but the 850 is made is a machine made for front mount attachments and I bought it to run a lawn mower. The handelbars switch on both machines, but the 850 has faster ground speed options in "pusher" mode and an instant reverser. I actually toyed with switching the engines, but decided against it because the 735 is getting old enough to be collectible and I wouldn't wanna ruin it by mounting that V-twin briggs on it. I am toying with buying a "Chinmar" diesel off ebay for 500 bucks delivered, but hesitate to buy Chinese anything and have always been a big believer in "YGWYPF"

Bill

 

[farmerboybill]

Hey oldmech,

This looks a lot like your plow for the Grillo! He modified it to mount on a Wheel Horse rider.


YouTube - Wheel Horse 312-8

 

[oldmech]

Hi! Thank you very much Farmerboy! You are right! This small moldboard plow make a very good job. Plowing need a lot of traction. I just finish make my spad steel wheels as on Video. I take some picts tomorrow. I think you dont need more wheight at rear because Plow go down naturally in ground. More light is better. More easy for lift over ground.
Adjust moldboard plow and make good plowing is ART . They are contest. We must adjust or set Hitch Because very hard work against a plow. Too much incline front Go too deep. You must lift handlebar Very hard for back. Too much incline rear No enough deep You must pull down handle more easy. But the best is neutral. For this we set hitch for put Plough at near level on the ground. and with some fine correction on work. You just guide the thing. Good luck ! Oldmech

 

[oldmech]

Hi! Here my new steel wheels. Very long to make . A lot of welding etc... VERY BAD FOR GRASS I think! I dont try it again . Soil or ground is freezing.
Four years ago I was plowing with JD 318 Turf tires and chains (no problem) Turf tires May be can go on dry soil but do not work with wet clay or mud because grips get full and no more traction. CHAINS are self cleaning.
I plan make special BIG Ring Chains (Pict 3) I think May Be this one are as Good than steel wheels and better with any tires. They are used with skidders.
Good luck! Oldmech

 

[Wis Bang]

When I was a kid, my dad had an old Simplicity and we pulled a 12" moldboard plow with it a lot. It pulled it fine. Of course he had wheel weights and loaded tires.

We had a simplicty FB from the 50's w/ the 12" plow, wheel weights & a counter weight that went in the front hitch.

also snow plow & (3) sickle bar heads that went in the front hitch. I've seen a front mount rotary mower too.

Had (2) 7.5hp clinton engines & when one started burning too much oil we'd start re-building the other one. We used to mow weed lots 6 days a week.

 

[JohnDeere4300]

Hi! Here my new steel wheels. Very long to make . A lot of welding etc... VERY BAD FOR GRASS

Nice looking wheels!!

Yea i think they would be bad for the grass

Very nice!

 

[farmerboybill]

Hey all,

I took my plow out yesterday.

Things I like - It plowed deeper'n I thought it would. General rule of thumb with a plow is usually you plow half as deep as the width of the plow (14 inches wide = 7 inches deep; 16=8; etc). By that logic, I should only gone 4 inches deep. I was plowing around 8 inches with an 8 inch wide plow and it was doing a decent job. That v twin 14 horse briggs did a great job pulling it. It didn't lug down at all.

Things I didn't like - Those turf tires won't do. I'm gonna need to find 6.5-12 lug tires to make this work. I didn't have trash cutters mounted and it plugged up a couple times, so will need to remedy that. I didn't have the tread set wide enough and had to offset the bracket to get the plow in the right spot. Therefore, I only plowed one way. Finally, I have short rows. By the time I got it the ground and doing some plowing, I was to the end of the row and picking it back out again. With the rolling motion of the soil, you also get forward motion. With plowing one way, I had a lot less soil on the side on which I started and a lot more soil on the side I stopped.

All in all, with some tweaking and longer rows, it'll be a fun toy to play with.

 

[mpapiary]

Wow Bill looks like it does a great job! The lug tires will definetly help you with traction, especialy in moister soil. And yes short rows are no fun. You just get going and have to quit!!!

 

[Bret4207]

I plowed a lot of gardens with a Montgomery Wards (Simplicity) 2 wheeler and an 8" plow. Even had the disc harrow and spike tooth harrow for it. We had loaded ag tread 12" tires and the front counter weight, Even then you only plowed 4-5" deep. Once I got a Gravely I never looked back.