Another memory for Ross

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Richard

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Ross, is in Atlanta. His parents divorced a couple years ago and his father married my younger sister. Being a 17 year old, popular kinda guy, Ross did the things that kids his age do. One thing different about Ross was… he evidently had a knack of ALWAYS being caught.

2 examples.

He skipped school once he went into a Waffle House (where my 2 sisters are regional managers and my OLDER sister happened to be IN the store) He walked in & she popped her head up over the counter and said “Hi Ross…” He opened his eyes with disbelief and said “What are YOU doing here??” Her answer was “I work here”

Lesson: when skipping school, NEVER EVER go to a place to eat where family & relatives work.

Second example: His father & his wife (my younger sister) went on a short vacation. While gone, it seems that Ross played Casanova. He put literally dozens and dozens of candles all throughout the house. Candles in the kitchen, candles in the bathroom, candles in the hallway, candles in the bedroom, and yes, candles in the master bedroom. Seems Ross liked blonds and had a girlfriend…..

He never had the sense to pick up all the candles BEFORE Dad & step mom came home from their vacation… BUSTED.

Last Thursday October 9, Ross & friend were at house alone. Being typical teenager type, Ross & friend decided to do some target practice on the balcony and shoot his BB gun into the woods behind the house rather than their homework.

Though the details are still unclear, it seems a neighborhood boy 3 years younger was also in the yard. The neighborhood boy, himself family friend (having cut yards with Ross and Ross’s father over the summers) was also target practicing, however, he was using a bow/arrow.

Ross being possibly in smart alec mode, took a pot shot with his bb gun and pegged the 14 year old in the hiney. The 14 year old walked over to the stairs to the balcony (Ross was maybe 9 feet up in air) and the boy laid an arrow onto the bow. As the boy drew the bow back, Ross’s other friend on balcony jumped back to a corner and crouched. Ross evidently was looking at the 14 year old & possibly giggling still over having pegged him in the butt. Ross standing straight up, bent over at the waist such that his chest was parallel, or even angled down towards the deck. I surmise his logic was, I’m ducking “under” the rail where you can’t see me…”ha ha ha”. We will never know.

As tragic as it would be, there happened to be an opening in the railing.

The lead investigator and the coroner took the boy that crouched in the corner back to the scene and had him walk through the details and then they comprehended a bit more the terrible events that unfolded.

Seems Ross was bending over at the waist when the 14 year old released the arrow. The arrow traveled UP 9 feet or so to the height of the deck, went THROUGH some “triangle area” and because Ross was doubled over, the arrow traveled “down” into Ross. The arrow hit Ross in the upper chest, traveling in a downward direction, piercing his heart and lung.

Ross stood up, arrow sticking upward, out of his chest. He walked down the steps to his friend, his neighbor, his co-worker (cutting yards) and said “You shot me”. The other friend on the porch said “We need to call 911”.

Ross said he was thirsty & walked to garage, the friend followed. Ross was not bleeding externally and was likely in state of shock. The friend called 911 on the cell phone and even gave the phone to Ross. As Ross talked to 911, the friend raced inside to call HIS mother that happened to be a nurse.

She arrived, ambulance arrived, sheriff arrived but ultimately to no avail.

The friend on the patio called Ross’s father and told him Ross had been shot. Dad did not believe it at first, thinking they were maybe playing a joke on him. He finally got the message and raced to hospital, being surpassed by the very ambulance that was carrying his son. Upon arriving at hospital & seeing his son being pulled out from the ambulance, the arrow still protruding, he started to walk over. They did not allow him to approach too close, as Ross was already gone. They did not want him to see him in this condition but it was too late. The memory forever burned into his mind.

Ross was buried yesterday.

His 14 year old neighborhood friend is charged with second degree manslaughter and is out on bail. He is under house arrest. As of today, no one in the family (Ross's family) thinks this boy shot Ross with ANY malice. Stupidity, tragic, dumb, (fill in some other choice words), but not malice. The poor boy who shot the arrow is going to have to live with this the rest of his life.

Last night was the first night that my brother in law & sister stayed at the house since the happening. He’s still in state of shock & being overwhelmed.

A sad & tragic event for all involved.

Ross was survived by his mother, father, their respective spouses, 2 beautiful younger sisters, 4 grandparents and a plethora of cousins, uncles, aunts & friends.

He will be missed by all.
 
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That just deflates me - I'm sorry - but thank you for writing that descriptive account. I've asked God to hold up your family and show Himself to them even through this tragedy. And to the other family that also has to live with the consequences. I have two boys with .22's and pellet guns and bows, and they will be reading this, today.

Again, thanks and our sympathies.
 
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Very tragic. My thoughts are with you and your family.

Thanks for sharing this most difficult story. Maybe, someday, it will save somebody's life.

David G.
 
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Thank you both. I'd wondered about sharing it, then decided to share it because I think the larger issue here is taking responsiblity for your situation and being "always aware" of what one is doing. Not to mention the absolute rank stupidity of the actions here and their consequenses.

When we first heard of the accident, we were told that they were practicing for hunting season, as was the boy with the bow.

I still do not know if that really was the case, or was just a story.

None the less, I became very angry and told the wife that under NO circumstances does someone point a deadly weapon at anyone for any reason. If the boy was target practicing, as far as I was concerned, he was guilty of murder 1 and I'd be very very very torn up & angry if I saw it passed off as "a hunting accident" and he got a slap on the wrist.

It wasn't until I drove down to Atlanta that I found out that Ross beaned the boy first in the hiney and that the boy was a mere 14 years old. Going back to my childhood, I can envision both of them laughing in a twisted sort of way with a "gotcha" smile on their face with the 14 year old not realizing the peril he was causing... until it was too late.

No easy answers, no home remedy to fix the gut wrench that everyone is feeling. No one really wants to see a 14 year old boy have his life ruined, yet all want to see "justice". What "is" justice in this kind of case... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I'm not so sure that this happening will ever have any form of "justice" since the current belief held by all is that the shooter was a family friend and held no malice.

I presume more detiails will be known as time passes and everyone is able to compare notes and put the whole puzzle together.

It was a wonderful tribute to Ross with his turnout. Seems because of his moving from his mothers to fathers (who had recently bought new house in new school district), Ross had attended 3 local schools and was universally loved by all. There were hundreds and hundreds of people showing up at the funeral home, and probably 200 at the cemetary.

It was very evident that he had touched far more people in a positive way than anyone had imagined. (or at least more than anyone had ever led me to believe).
 
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Richard,

I am sorry to hear of this horrible situation.

I did a web search to try to find more info but you provided
more details than the article I found. It sounds like it was just a
moment of non thought on the 14 year olds part. But I do have
a concern that he was out with a weapon without supervision.
On the other hand he could be a real good kid and just reacted
without thought. But I was raised to never point a deadly
weapon at anything I did not intend to shoot and kill so I wonder
about the 14 year's parents a bit. Those rules where drilled into
me before I was 6. I don't mean to come down on the parents
since we don't know what rules they had and if the 14 year
old even had permission to have the bow...

Its a tradegy for both families and I'll be danged if I know of
any answers....

I'm glad you made your post. I'm sure someone on TBN will tell
their kids which may make a difference...

As an aside the post was a shocker. It started out funny like
one of Cindi's stories but then the bottom dropped out....

Later,
Dan McCarty
 
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<font color="blue"> What "is" justice in this kind of case...

I'm not so sure that this happening will ever have any form of "justice" since the current belief held by all is that the shooter was a family friend and held no malice.
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I tend to agree... justice would apply to a criminal act and it would be hard to assign that blame, hearing the circumstances. Several families have experienced a terrible tragedy that cannot be un-done. The only thing to be hoped for is some good will come of it, like making someone think twice. The shooter will think about it every day for a long time. Hopefully he can become an advocate for safety and spread the message. Poor kid.

My sister had some friends when she was about 10-12 years old. They were playing golf with some plastic practice balls in one of the yards. One kid hit the ball, but another kid was too close. The club hit the other kid in the head and killed her instantly right in front of my sister. Not the same circumstances, but a case of kids goofing around with potentially dangerous objects. She was affected for many years. The kid that hit the other girl was messed up. They ended up moving away and we never heard from them again.

The old saying, "There but for the grace of God, go I" applies to my life as well, as there were many times that my friends and I made poor judgments. I'm surprised none of us were killed. I know better, now, of course, but worry about my children, as well as all children. I often wonder why no adult stepped in and put a stop to it.

Again, my thoughts are with you and your family.

David G.
 
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Richard, you and your family certainly have our thoughts, prayers, and sympathy. That's a terrible thing for both families involved.
 
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My boys, 14 & 10, have just finished reading a printed version of your original post, cut n' pasted to start with "Last Thursday...". I thought the candle stuff would incite way too much giggling. They've been trained properly, but now they see how things can start off simply and get out of control quickly, especially when groups of kids get together. I think the message will stick. We will keep the story. Thank you.
 
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Poor kids, both of them. How awful for all of you. One of Jake's friend's showed up this weekend to spend the night with his bow case, but he never took tried to take it out. Good thing as I wouldn't have let him.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I did a web search to try to find more info but you provided
more details than the article I found )</font>

Not sure if I should say "interetingly enough"... (but) I tried to find any article about the incident and was unable. I was looking on the Atlanta journal-constitution website.
 
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Richard
I have been shot with a bow & arrow before by some smart a...girl in the park when I was just 12 yrs. old.
I was on the merrygoround when whamo I didnt know what hit me !
I ran home almost passing out from a loss of blood
The arrow stuck in my forehead & glided along my scalp
until it stopped, it did not penetrate my skull (angle shot). I required 12 stitches (that was all) and sent home
The police did nothing to her because her father was some city big wig.
I had a head ache for 2 weeks and almost lost my life
I will always remember that day as long as I live.

My friend pointed an (empty) .22 at me later in life just joking around. And I took it from him and threw it out his 2 story bedroom window.
when it hit the cement it went off kaboom and his father gave him the licking of his life.
The moral of this story is that kids get caught up in the moment and do stupid things.
Im really sorry that incident happened I will pray for your family & all involved, that God will comfort you thru this ordeal
May peace be your cloak
Ernie , in Oregon <><
 
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Richard,

I could not find anything on the Atlanta Journal Constitution site
either. That really suprised me.

I can't remember the news page I found but I think I got there
from Yahoo.

I tried again and came up with this from Macon.
www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/local/6977263.htm

This is NOT the link I found yesterday. This article had a bit
more info anyway.

Later,
Dan
 
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Thank you for sharing that with me. I guess I may have been a touch more graphic than maybe necessary (when compared to the article). /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

If so, and anyone was offended, I apologize.


"semi update"

Without getting into all the details that simply make me angry with a industry that I think tries to "help" at a worst possible time in someones lifetime, the funeral expenses are somewhere around $18,000. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Like most working couples with 3 kids in school, the family doens't happen to have 18k sitting around just waiting to be devoured by the funeral industry, so this is also putting quite a financial hiccup on the family.

We are all trying to chip in as we can, and had a memorial fund started to help defray expenses. In the initial shock of it all, the father declined a memorial fund. It was me that talked to my sister and explained it all and then I got with the funeral home to help set it up.

The unconfirmed rumor in the family is there might have been a 5k insurance policy on Ross. If so, it will be a very welcome surprise. There are still some questions as to if it was still in effect, or if it was paid up and terminated upon his 18th birthday. (fingers crossed)

Found out today, my sister & brother in law are STILL not staying at the house. It's just too difficult for him. They are staying at his brothers. They have driven by and went to the house after the funeral services with the minister.

It's absolutely devestated him (and the mother) and they are taking baby steps to try to keep him together and keep his general track on life in the proper direction.

Just so sad that things like this happen in life to anyone.

/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
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$18,000.00 seems awfully high. Must be very hard on the family to have such a tragedy, then be hit with huge bills on top of it. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
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Yes, I agree on the high number...and in part, it's the fathers fault.

During the process of talks with the funeral people, it was asked if they wanted a single, or multiple burial sites. The mother & father decided on one. While they were driving through the cemetary looking at plots, the father evidently snapped from the emotions of it all and said "I'm not going to bury my son alone... we will take three plots".

So, he has the "arbitrary" cost of 2 more sites to now pay for. I dont know what I would have done in that situation as, thankfully, I've never been in it. I can see his angle, yet at same time, can see not buying 3.
 
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Richard,

One of the guys at work is from GA and his family is in the
funeral business. His biggest suggestion was to shop around for
prices. But that is hard to do in these situations and it sounds
like your family is well into the planning stages. He did say to
limit limo rides and the casket cost.

But this is one of those times that its hard to shop....

For insurance policies check the bank. I have policies at the
Credit Union that they give away for free. Some organizations
also have little policies that go with membership. If you sister
or brother in law are members of a group they might cover a
family member. There might be a little bit of money here and
there that could help out with the cost of the funeral.

We have had some HEAVY and HOT arguments with family
members who have taken care of our child in the past. They
no longer have the responsibilty since they do not understand
simple safety issues and they make really bad decisions
regarding safety. They simply do not understand how quickly
bad things can happen. It takes an instant. And a life can be
gone or a person seriously injured. At that point everything
changes and there ain't no Back button on the browser to
make things better in real life.

Ignorance can be bliss....

Later,
Dan McCarty
 
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Its got to be hard. All parents expect to outlive their children. Lots of us buy plots ahead and pre-plan so there won't be any burden for the children. I can't blame him for taking the three plots. I'd probably do the same thing. My family has done a few things like that, too, when a young relative has passed. Most of them are burried right near each other. Now I'm the only one left to tend to the plots /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif I take the kids and give them a family history lesson once or twice a year while we plant flowers and pull weeds. They seem to enjoy it. Now their old grandpa(wife's grandpa) is in the same cemetery, so we get to wonder all over the place looking at the stones and historical markers. I try to go on bright, sunny days. Makes for a quiet, but pleasant afternoon. Very peaceful.
 
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Just thought I'd post some update here that I've heard through the grapevine (ie, my mother /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif)

The charges against the boy that killed Ross have been upped to 2nd degree murder. He's going to be charged as an adult BUT will it will be held in juvinile court. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Doesnt make sense to ME, but again, was just what I was told. Evidently, this will preclude him from getting a life type sentence. The thinking is, he might get (max) 5 years or something like that. The understanding is, the trial will be open to family members only, verses public, since he is technically a minor. No one really knows for sure just who will/won't be allowed to attend the trial.

Evidently, he's under house arrest. Since he's been homeschooled (for several years) he's essentially in jail at home. My understanding is, he's allowed to be in HIS yard, or in HIS house. Anything beyond that is a violation. Seems other day, he was out mowing neighbors lawn. My sister saw him & called court system. They got someone "right out" and by time they arrived, he had finished the job and was at his house, or at least, on his property.

If the story was presented to me accurately, it also seems he's had some troubles in his past. The word is, he has trouble getting along with others, which is why they have home schooled him while his 2 sisters attend public school. If that is true, there might be something else in his past, that caused the DA to up the charges to 2nd degree murder, verses manslaughter???

Still have a lot of unknown answers, but that's the scuttlebutt that was just passed on to me.

No "winners" on any side here, all losers no matter how you cut the pie.

/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
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Thanks for the update. I just happened to be cruising TBN & saw your recent post. It still strikes home.

We've just completed hunter safety training as a family a few weeks ago. Heavy emphasis on safe handling of firearms - I'd highly recommend anyone taking the course - even if not interested in hunting. There is also a lot of outdoor safety & survival information which is helpful even for hikers and campers. I'm sure there are similar courses in many states.

Again, thank you for making this an opportunity for us to learn & pass along a lesson to our kids.
 
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DEAR RICHARD...

Just happend onto your story and was not only blown away but deeply saddened. On the fact of being "too graphic"...Absolutely not!!!! I ahve a lot of friends with teenagers and they are all going to get a copy of this "whole string"!!!! If this story saves one life then maybe we can save another whole family line ...literally...These kinds of tradedies affect dozens of people not just the ones who are immediately involved!!!
I AM SO SORRY..I KNOW WORDS CANT CHANGE THINGS BUT GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS......

Sincerely,
Todd Hall
 

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