buickanddeere
Super Member
Take away their subsidizes and let us know .
Show us a commercial wind or solar operation that is still in operation after the subsidized rate contract expired.
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Take away their subsidizes and let us know .
Show us a commercial wind or solar operation that is still in operation after the subsidized rate contract expired.
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Egon
Epic Contributor
What kind of subsidies they be getting.
No way around it, solar and wind do work!
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Egon
Epic Contributor
Nope, nothing in the waiting for the coal, oil & gas but they will make up the shortfall of twenty percent.
Just no way to get around it; solar and wind do work and have been for millennium. Just plain old physics you know.
buickanddeere
Super Member
Please tell us your satisfaction if you home was connected to only wind and solar and you paid 30cents per kwhr for backup from the utility ? No fossil gas appliances either . Electric fridge, freezer, stove, clothes dryer and furnace.
Odd how so many of these green electricity buildings rely primary on gas and wood.
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Egon
Epic Contributor
Now you have me confused.
So I'm not conected to the grid. Where does the the utility come in?
What percentage of Alberta homes heat with gas?
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So I'm not conected to the grid. Where does the the utility come in?
What percentage of Alberta homes heat with gas?
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Commercial solar voltaic contracts in Ontario are now signing at 11 cents / kwhr.
buickanddeere
Super Member
That is the current contract but nobody is signing up. The Ontario Governent does not want to have to subsidize more green power . The bulk of Ontario Solar is at 80.2cents . After the rate dropped below the 39.5 a year or two ago . The solar installation companies have folded due to lack of business .
http://microfit.powerauthority.on.ca/pdf/microFIT-Program-price-schedule.pdf
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Egon
Epic Contributor
Information. Can't validate it.
Seems there has been a lot of money spent on updating infrastructure.
[video]http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/ontario-homeowners-to-reap-solar-benefits-in-5-years-association-says/article25371392/[/video]
[video]http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/solar-power-surging-to-forefront-of-canadian-energy/article19786759/[/video]
Seems there has been a lot of money spent on updating infrastructure.
[video]http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/ontario-homeowners-to-reap-solar-benefits-in-5-years-association-says/article25371392/[/video]
[video]http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/solar-power-surging-to-forefront-of-canadian-energy/article19786759/[/video]
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The 80c figure was only for small operators and it was only in place for a couple of years. I know this first hand.
The large industrial installations are being put in as fast as they are permitted... my next door neighbor is the business manager for one of them. They sign at 11c .
It is in fact one of the cheaper sources of hydro now.
buickanddeere
Super Member
The bulk of solar is 10Kw microfit which what you are referring to as small. The larger solar "farms" in Saulte Ste Marie, Sarnia and some drive shed roofs along highway 9 west of Teviodale .
Better check your numbers on the FIT. Rates.
There is also the time lag between the approved contract and when the system goes into service . Just because you see the system being built in 2016, the price was set in 2013-2014 or even earlier .
Better check your numbers on the subsidized price . And btw what are we supposed to do with the extra power that we paid a subsidized wholesale rate for. On nights , weekends and just about anytime spring and fall. When base load generation supplies the entire grid demand .
FIT Program Pricing | Feed-in Tariff Program - Independent Electricity System Operator