Agco Allis SAME parts

[Stu K]

Good afternoon.

Well I think I made a mistake and bought a SAME built Agco Allis. The tractor itself is in excellent shape...except she is burning oil and I have struck out trying to find and rebuild parts for a SAME.

I tied my local duetz dealers and no help they sent me to my local Agco dealer which as well was no help. I even emailed SAME as well and no response. I have mechanic that would do the work but can't find the parts for a rebuild.

Acgoparts has the parts numbers, I just can't find a supplier.

Anybody know anyone I can reach out to or had any luck purchasing.

Any help is greatly appreciated

 

[Hay Dude]

Good afternoon.

Well I think I made a mistake and bought a SAME built Agco Allis. The tractor itself is in excellent shape...except she is burning oil and I have struck out trying to find and rebuild parts for a SAME.

I tied my local duetz dealers and no help they sent me to my local Agco dealer which as well was no help. I even emailed SAME as well and no response. I have mechanic that would do the work but can't find the parts for a rebuild.

Acgoparts has the parts numbers, I just can't find a supplier.

Anybody know anyone I can reach out to or had any luck purchasing.

Any help is greatly appreciated

Try Agriteer in Leola, PA

 

[TractorTech]

AGCO Allis Tractor Parts

AGCO Allis Tractor Parts Find the tractor model you are needing parts for and you will be able to download the parts page for that model. What kind of

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[Stu K]

AGCO Allis Tractor Parts

AGCO Allis Tractor Parts Find the tractor model you are needing parts for and you will be able to download the parts page for that model. What kind of

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Thanks for the reply, I have looked here and the parts are limited. They don't cover the major engine components. At least I was not able to find them on the parts pages.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I have NO problem getting any AGCO Allis part that I want from my AGCO dealer.

What model is your tractor and what do you need?

SR

 

[Stu K]

I have NO problem getting any AGCO Allis part that I want from my AGCO dealer.

What model is your tractor and what do you need?

SR

I have contacted my Agco dealer and they were no help. The machine is burning oil so I believe it likely is time for an overhaul. I am not a diesel mechanic but would assume an overall kit, sleeve, piston, rings........

 

[Sawyer Rob]

AND the model number is???

SR

 

[Stu K]

AND the model number is???

SR

Its a 5680 1995 model SR 1510. The serial tag on the engine is damaged but it has the SAME SLH 1000.4A engine the number I can read on the tag is 37378.

 

[Same35]

I have a SAME, and Deutz took them over. I work through my local Deutz dealer and can find any part I need ($$$). Perhaps being an Agco label throws them off. I would think if you work with the engine model you could relate it to the corresponding Same machine having that engine, and find the parts. Or keep going through the Agco route. Deutz should be the ticket, although you may have to find a dealer to work with and dig into the parts manuals.

 

[Hay Dude]

I have contacted my Agco dealer and they were no help. The machine is burning oil so I believe it likely is time for an overhaul. I am not a diesel mechanic but would assume an overall kit, sleeve, piston, rings........

Be careful how quickly you assume oil consumption means complete overhaul.
Might need something simpler like valve guide seals.

You don’t need any parts to do a compression test. Thats what I’d be doing first.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

OK, I did some checking for you...

First off, there are no "kits", you have to buy what you need part by part, and you will not find all the parts coming from one place, they will have to come from several places, BUT, I know a guy that can get the parts and is willing to help you. Here's the thing, just the parts to do a complete over haul will cost over 5 thousand dollars.

I'd suggest unless it's going through a LOT of oil, you just run it as is. Second choice is to just do the top end and that still won't be cheeep.

If you still want to go through the engine, let me know and I'll put in contact with the guy I know.

I had a high houred SAME one time that smoked and burned oil, I just ran it, and for several years, then I sold it to a friend, and today, it still starts easy and just keeps going and going with good power.

SR

 

[Hay Dude]

Another alternative is to find a used engine.
I wouldn’t even waste my time looking until a simple compression test is done.

 

[ptsg]

This is an air cooled engine.

What usually happens is people don't fix oil leaks which will run down the fins on the liners, eventually clogging it with dust and debris. Then the cylinder gets too hot and eventually cracks the rings.

Being an air cooled engine, you can simply drop a new piston and liner in place and it's good to go.

It's a fairly common engine and parts shouldn't be hard to find.

 

[Stu K]

Be careful how quickly you assume oil consumption means complete overhaul.
Might need something simpler like valve guide seals.

You don’t need any parts to do a compression test. Thats what I’d be doing first.

Thanks for the feedback. Not a diesel mechanic, but what would a good or maybe bad compression be on a diesel.

 

[Stu K]

This is an air cooled engine.

What usually happens is people don't fix oil leaks which will run down the fins on the liners, eventually clogging it with dust and debris. Then the cylinder gets too hot and eventually cracks the rings.

Being an air cooled engine, you can simply drop a new piston and liner in place and it's good to go.

It's a fairly common engine and parts shouldn't be hard to find.

Thanks ptsg. that was my impression but I have tried duetz and agco and just cant find parts. I am able to find the part #s on the Agco site but cannot find where to purchase them. I love the tractor and overall the tractor is in great shape except its thirsty for oil.

 

[Stu K]

OK, I did some checking for you...

First off, there are no "kits", you have to buy what you need part by part, and you will not find all the parts coming from one place, they will have to come from several places, BUT, I know a guy that can get the parts and is willing to help you. Here's the thing, just the parts to do a complete over haul will cost over 5 thousand dollars.

I'd suggest unless it's going through a LOT of oil, you just run it as is. Second choice is to just do the top end and that still won't be cheeep.

If you still want to go through the engine, let me know and I'll put in contact with the guy I know.

I had a high houred SAME one time that smoked and burned oil, I just ran it, and for several years, then I sold it to a friend, and today, it still starts easy and just keeps going and going with good power.

SR

I will see if I can get a compression test done and follow up. Appreciate the help and may still take you up on your resource.

 

[Stu K]

Just wanted to follow up on the thread. I sent the tractor to my local diesel shop and unfortunately as thought they are recommending an overhaul. Unfortunately they are not able to find any aftermarket parts. The piston kits are running 2700 alone so the complete is looking to be around 8 to 10k.
With the parts issues and the overall cost I believe I am just going to take the loss and replace the tractor. I appreciate all the feedback from everyone on here.