Adjustable lever binder

[Tompet]

Anyone familiar or have an opinion on these chain binders?
A little pricey, but it appears they are made in USA. Seems like a good idea.


Industrial Chain Rigging Equipment Supplier, Chain Hoists, Winches, Securement Products

 

[Diamondpilot]

Looks like something else to go wrong to me. Rust may also be a issue for some. I store my stuff indoors. I like just the good old tried and true lever binder with a cheater pipe to synch it down good.

Others like the ratchet binders. I think they would be a better option than these.

 

[GE222]

Over center load binders are ok, but must be secured so as not to release. I prefer the ratcheting type.

 

[77bronco]

The biggest problem I have with ratcheting binders is that it takes too long to tighten them.
Regular binders for me.

 

[crash325]

Looks like something else to go wrong to me. Rust may also be a issue for some. I store my stuff indoors. I like just the good old tried and true lever binder with a cheater pipe to synch it down good.

Others like the ratchet binders. I think they would be a better option than these.

The regular old chain binders are the way to go. Why mess with a screw or bolt when all you have to do is move to a different chain link. Yep they do need to be tied shut, #1 wrap the extra chain around the leaver or use a little bailing wire. I leave the chains, binders and chocks on the trailer, so I know where they are.

 

[some zilch]

The biggest problem I have with ratcheting binders is that it takes too long to tighten them.
Regular binders for me.

while they *might* be quicker than a ratchet binder, ratchet binders dont need to be tied shut, dont snap open and break your face, dont need cheater pipes, etc. i have no issues quickly tighteneing a ratchet load binder.

the way i chain dozers, excavators, etc is using one chain for two locations; grab one left hand track pad with a grab hook, grab the oposite right side track pad with the other grab hook on the other end of the chain. use one ratchet binder to pull each track to trailer. the "extra" middle part of the chain lays on the trailer deck. point being-there would no chain to waste my time wrapping around a jaw breaker. my last employer did not allow snap binders for anything other securing dunnage or wooden ramps to trailers.

 

[newt92]

while they *might* be quicker than a ratchet binder, ratchet binders dont need to be tied shut, dont snap open and break your face, dont need cheater pipes, etc. i have no issues quickly tighteneing a ratchet load binder.

Same here!!

 

[brain55]

Ratcheting chain binders might be okay for guys that are the only user of their binders, and take care of them. Like lubricating them before and after every use and keeping them in a dry place. But if you have multiple users, and they get left out or don't get lubricated, they are pretty much useless. I'll take over center binders any day. If they are properly used and installed tight enough to begin with, it is rare that there is a problem with them coming undone going down the road. Usually if they loosen up it is for a lack of willingness to grab that extra link to really get them tight. If you did not use a cheater bar to secure a load with ratcheting binders, it is not secure in my opinion.

Brian

 

[JB4310]

Seems to be an even split here on the type of binders used. For me it's the ratcheting type, so much more control, less guessing especially for beginners or occasional users.

I thought the over center binders were banned cause I hardly ever see them any more, probably just a rumor.

JB.

 

[QRTRHRS]

I find ratcheting binders to be slow and cumbersome. Lever binders get my vote. I do use a cheater pipe but I know enough not to stretch the chain. I always give my closed binders a "tap" with the pipe to seat them.

I like to stop after just a few short miles and recheck my fastening devices then every so often either following the regulations and/or convenient to me as far as a safe place to stop.

Only problem I ever had was some bagger stealing my chains and binders.

 

[grsthegreat]

i had a cheater bar from a lever binder fly off and nearly smash my face. i tossed the entire setup and bought a set of ratchet binders. Way safer for a dummy like me.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Ratcheting chain binders might be okay for guys that are the only user of their binders, and take care of them. Like lubricating them before and after every use and keeping them in a dry place. But if you have multiple users, and they get left out or don't get lubricated, they are pretty much useless. I'll take over center binders any day. If they are properly used and installed tight enough to begin with, it is rare that there is a problem with them coming undone going down the road. Usually if they loosen up it is for a lack of willingness to grab that extra link to really get them tight. If you did not use a cheater bar to secure a load with ratcheting binders, it is not secure in my opinion.

Brian

I am with you Brian. I have never tied a binder closed with wire or anything like that and I have never had one come open. Maybe I am just lucky but they get crazy tight with the cheater bar and I like them because of the simplicity and price.

Millions of loads are transported with these Monthly by weekend warriors and professional truckers. I have yet to find one laying along the road where it has came loose and fallen off.
Chris

 

[JB4310]

I think there is no doubt a much greater risk of injury using the over center binders. Those things are just ready to explode at any moment, especially with all the talk of added leverage/cheater bars. I can only imagine the physical injuries suffered by them.

So it's all about saving a little time? They don't hold a load any better, in fact there is less control over the tension, either one link may be to tight or another link to loose. Unlike with the ratcheting type where any amount of tension can be dialed in. I would think this would be extra especially true with very short tie offs of 2-3 ft.

These are just my own limited experience observations, I do respect others opinions who use the OTC type binders in their occupations and prefer them.

JB.

 

[dstig1]

I like the ratchets. Seems like less guessing and risk, to me. I put 2 chains on the front of my tractor, back up the tractor to tension them snug, and then use 2 chains on the rear with ratchet binders to tighten everything down. I am the only one that uses them and an occasional shot of spray lube is all they need to keep them happy. But that's just me. The one the OP posted looks like another compromise, which may or may not be better in a given situation. To each their own.

 

[grsthegreat]

ya, mine are stored in trailer box when not being used. They like to stay snug and warm.

 

[BillBeyer]

I own and use both type. The first ones I pick up are the ratchet type though.

 

[SixHoeBob]

Some if not all DOTs, require all binders used for securing loads to be ratchet type. That means that all lever binders might as well be sent to Crapa. After using the cheater pipe to close the snap binders, I whack them with the CP to set them, and then wire them shut.
Lubricated ratchet binders have enough force to bend the machine or trailer, without the use of a pipe.
In order to avoid a discussion with Officer Friendly, I recently switched to ratchet binders. I will keep the lever binders for the few times when I have a lot to chain down, even though Officer Friendly might not like them.

 

[mbrule]

Have both ratchet and lever binders, use both successfully. My tractor is only a couple thousand lbs, I uses a combination of ratchet and lever on 1/4 inch chain. For my car trailer, I have switched to 10000 lb ratchet straps and love them.

That said, and back to the OP's question, I don't see that "adjustable lever" type shown as being useful. They look more cumbersome that either regular levers or ratchets to me!

 

[nutsfortractors]

In my opinion those binders would work, but I much prefer the ratchet binders. At work I am moving Skid steers and mini excavators daily. Once you get used to the ratchet binders and get a system down they are much wuicker. You don't have to fight with the chain to get to right link. You also dont have to worry about tying the handles shut, one more step and when you do this daily one more thing to have to worey about if you get stoped by the DOT. Also when you are traveling if a chain does come loose, it is very easy to hop out and ratchet it a litlle tighter.

 

[QRTRHRS]

Some if not all DOTs, require all binders used for securing loads to be ratchet type. That means that all lever binders might as well be sent to Crapa. After using the cheater pipe to close the snap binders, I whack them with the CP to set them, and then wire them shut.
Lubricated ratchet binders have enough force to bend the machine or trailer, without the use of a pipe.
In order to avoid a discussion with Officer Friendly, I recently switched to ratchet binders. I will keep the lever binders for the few times when I have a lot to chain down, even though Officer Friendly might not like them.

Ratchet binders required? That's a new one to me. Wonder where to find that in the regulations?