About this pedal thang

[k0ua]

K0ua,

You must be a darn good operator. The way you describe using your breaks makes me think about the type of finessing I have done clutching and braking a two stroke dirt bike. With my tractor, I'm still learning how to level a high spot without accidentally making a low spot, lol! As often as I have time to run my tractor, I'm probably two decades away from making use of split brakes!

Been tractoring for many decades.

 

[Corkpuller]

Been tractoring for many decades.

:thumbsup: and obviously a man who knows how to operate.

Interesting that no one has even thought to mention why a tractor would even have an option to brake individual wheels.
For those who claim it’s never needed, then why is there an option to use steering brakes.

Ok, that’s all I got, and I am pretty sure the pedal thang ain’t for me.
I’m seriously kicking the tires on the Deere 3033R.
I have no doubt the Kubotas are great machines.

Merry Christmas fellers!

 

[Tompet]

The peddle took me a little while to get used to, now I like it. Big mistake placing your foot on the top and "rocking" back and forth. Its just way too uncomfortable for anyone over 5ft tall. Use your toe on the forward end and rest your heal on the floor board. For reverse, lift your foot and place your toes where your heal was, and heal on the rear part of the peddle. Yes, its more movement of your leg, but way easier to control.

As crashz states, that is the way to operate rocker pedal. I think first impulse for some is to place foot across whole top of pedal, which again as crashz states, a big mistake, then they're turned off to the treadle.

 

[Grateful11]

The peddle took me a little while to get used to, now I like it. Big mistake placing your foot on the top and "rocking" back and forth. Its just way too uncomfortable for anyone over 5ft tall. Use your toe on the forward end and rest your heal on the floor board. For reverse, lift your foot and place your toes where your heal was, and heal on the rear part of the peddle. Yes, its more movement of your leg, but way easier to control.

While I agree that the split brakes are useless on these models unless you have cruise control, they actually don't need them. I used the split brakes on my 770 a lot, but the 2501 seems to turn better. With a 5ft mower on the back, I think you'll be able to get to everything you need to.

Would I chose gear over hydro next time? No way! This machine so nimble and controllable, I could never give it up. For close quarters, its amazingly handy. The 2501 will do any ground engaging and loader work you can throw at it, but If you need a lot of PTO power, the higher power model (3901) may be a better choice. I've had mine bog in heavy growth with both the 6ft finish mower and 5ft bush hog on and had to slow down to clear it out.

Really, I don't see it as a big mistake at all. I find it odd that that's the way someone uses the treadle pedal in the manner you've described and the one shown in the video linked earlier, if that's what a person likes then so be it. Our son has an L3940 with almost 2000 hours on it that's used 365 days a year on a cattle feedlot, lots of in and out feed troughs. It's other main job is to load a 155 bushel manure spreader. I've timed it and that spreader can be heap/pile loaded in under 4 minutes and I've never seen anyone here lift their foot off the treadle pedal to go from forward to reverse. Now I realize the L3940 has a slightly different shaped treadle pedal but he had an MX5100HST at one time and it was the same shape as a L2501 but maybe a bit larger pedal not sure. I don't recalled anyone not being able to just rock their foot on the MX.

Very glad to hear you like your L2501 BTW, our son is looking at one for doing clean up work and odd chores.

 

[Gator6x4]

Really, I don't see it as a big mistake at all. I find it odd that that's the way someone uses the treadle pedal in the manner you've described and the one shown in the video linked earlier, if that's what a person likes then so be it. Our son has an L3940 with almost 2000 hours on it that's used 365 days a year on a cattle feedlot, lots of in and out feed troughs. It's other main job is to load a 155 bushel manure spreader. I've timed it and that spreader can be heap/pile loaded in under 4 minutes and I've never seen anyone here lift their foot off the treadle pedal to go from forward to reverse. Now I realize the L3940 has a slightly different shaped treadle pedal but he had an MX5100HST at one time and it was the same shape as a L2501 but maybe a bit larger pedal not sure. I don't recalled anyone not being able to just rock their foot on the MX.

Very glad to hear you like your L2501 BTW, our son is looking at one for doing clean up work and odd chores.

I don’t understand it either. People criticize having to lift their foot on a Kubota. I have green and orange and I find the Orange easier to use. There is one thing for sure one has to lift there foot to go from one hydro pedal to the other on green. Funny that no one ever complains about that.

 

[chim]

My foot somehow figures it out all on its own.

 

[Grateful11]

My foot somehow figures it out all on its own.

:thumbsup:

 

[davedj1]

My only experience with the peddle is on a buddies 2501, I'm 6'-2" and there is no way I can comfortably rest my foot on the peddle, it's too uncomfortable on my hip and muscles. Now if the seat were higher for us taller fellas it might be different.

 

[Motorboatin]

The Kubota L2501, 3301 and 3901 have the split brakes on the left side of the tractor, HST treadle on the right side of the tractor.

Brakes are on the right above the treadle

 

[Grateful11]

Brakes are on the right above the treadle


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As they are on a Grand L40 series with HST, basically useless. The only place most people use them is for turns in crop fields anyway.

 

[wcampbell47]

Two activities you mentioned were cutting in tight quarters and loader work. The HST is far superior and less tiring than a geared tractor. Have owned both, one geared and two HST. When mowing on a geared tractor depressing the clutch to reverse or change speed of tractor disengages the PTO and mower. With HST PTO stays engaged at same RPM. A geared tractor with loader requires almost constant use of both hands and feet. If you can fly a helicopter you will not have a problem. Left hand steers, left foot operates the clutch, right hand operates the joy stick and/or gear shift, right foot brakes maybe even throttle. Geared tractor is much more tiring than the HST. I never rest my foot on the treadle. Just use heel and toe.

 

[bdhsfz6]

Obviously there are a lot of differing opinions on gear vs HST. If you don't do much maneuvering or frequent repetitive tasks, Save a few $$ and go with gears. In my case, five of the six Kubota's I've owned over the years have been HST's. For the work I do in tight spaces, I much prefer the time savings of not having to stop and shift frequently.

I'm not sure what model year Kubota tractors you're looking at. Since there is no clutch on Most newer L series HST's, many now have split brakes on the left. This is the case with my current L6060 and MX5800 and I frequently steer using brakes.

The HST pedals are also subject to personal preference and some user adjustment is required to use comfortably. I use these techniques:

L6060



MX5800



When operating in reverse, I use the toe of my left foot as shown in the third picture in each row. I can't speak for others but I have arthritis & two joint replacements and have no trouble with these operations.

 

[Newby first timer]

Obviously there are a lot of differing opinions on gear vs HST. If you don't do much maneuvering or frequent repetitive tasks, Save a few $$ and go with gears. In my case, five of the six Kubota's I've owned over the years have been HST's. For the work I do in tight spaces, I much prefer the time savings of not having to stop and shift frequently.

I'm not sure what model year Kubota tractors you're looking at. Since there is no clutch on Most newer L series HST's, many now have split brakes on the left. This is the case with my current L6060 and MX5800 and I frequently steer using brakes.

The HST pedals are also subject to personal preference and some user adjustment is required to use comfortably. I use these techniques:

L6060

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MX5800

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When operating in reverse, I use the toe of my left foot as shown in the third picture in each row. I can't speak for others but I have arthritis & two joint replacements and have no trouble with these operations.

Your bottom pics are how I operate my MX5800 as well. Never operated a Geared tractor so I have no experience to say anything about them.
Love my HST and Could not a mad-gen even running Geared for what I do with my Tractor.

 

[k0ua]

Your bottom pics are how I operate my MX5800 as well. Never operated a Geared tractor so I have no experience to say anything about them.
Love my HST and Could not a mad-gen even running Geared for what I do with my Tractor.

Operation of a geared tractor is all still very doable, you are just a lot more "busy". For casual operations it is no great burden, but at the end of a 10 hour day, you are going to feel a lot more fatigued than if you had operated a HST equipped machine. Also very telling is doing precision operations like picking up pallets of of a pickup truck bed, or operating up next to buildings. Much easier and more precise with a HST for most people. Of course skill level of a geared tractor operator varies all over the map. Some are much better operators than others.