A simple oil change.....Negative

   / A simple oil change.....Negative #31  
My 03 dk 50c did the same thing...got a 1/2 x 20 tap and used a chevy / ford drain plug...they both use 1/2 x 20 threads....oversized plugs WILL give you issues in a few changes...least thats what i have experienced in the last 33 years of repairs...JMHO
 
   / A simple oil change.....Negative
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My 03 dk 50c did the same thing...got a 1/2 x 20 tap and used a chevy / ford drain plug...they both use 1/2 x 20 threads....oversized plugs WILL give you issues in a few changes...least thats what i have experienced in the last 33 years of repairs...JMHO

Thanks for the heads up...I'll keep an eye on it.
 
   / A simple oil change.....Negative #34  
The OP put in a "piggy-back plug". You thread in the oversize plug which has a smaller plug tapped down the middle. You never need to remove the oversize part. A steel insert from the OEM would have been best but if Honda won't do it making millions of cars, I'm sure Kioti won't do it. Good thing is, the drain plug has only two jobs. Hold the oil in and allow you to drain it occasionally. Not rocket science. I just wish OEMs would consider that and design accordingly. A good helicoil, installed properly, will be stronger than the original aluminum design.

Chuck
 
   / A simple oil change.....Negative #35  
Or just make the plug a softer material than the pan threads.
 
   / A simple oil change.....Negative #36  
in an aluminum pan.. hmm.. that'd be zinc or lead then.. :)
 
   / A simple oil change.....Negative #37  
I am no metallurgist but I believe they could have a different metal inserted in the pan that would yield stronger threads but still keep the aluminum pan itself for heat transfer. Or use a plastic plug. LOL
 
   / A simple oil change.....Negative #38  
FWIW...
It seems to me that a simple answer would be to make the drain plug out of a softer material than the pan, then the plug would strip not the pan.
Another solution may be to make the plug like a wall anchor and let compression make the seal, then there would be no threads to strip.
 
   / A simple oil change.....Negative #39  
How about using those expanding plugs like we used for freeze plugs?
 
   / A simple oil change.....Negative #40  
i've seen that on a welch plug hole and it led to a seized engine.

I think a composite plug with an oring would be ok for an al-zn pan though..
 

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