5145 and a ditch bank flail mower

[cbg8670]

Please do that, if you have time.

Sorry got busy with honey do's
Will get then as soon as I can

 

[cbg8670]

Here some pictures finally.
Dual remotes on back

Dual spools side by side

Red and black (supply and return hoses) from block below loader connections to remote spool
Not sure of exactly how flow is

 

[USMC43]

Here some pictures finally.
Dual remotes on back

Dual spools side by side

Red and black (supply and return hoses) from block below loader connections to remote spool
Not sure of exactly how flow is
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This is pretty standard way for the second SCV and has been for 50 plus years. You can see the second/right valve is different color and was added by the dealer or at least after paint of the tractor. The outside plate has bolts that sandwich the valve spools to the inner plate that is allso the 3 point valve. Longer bolts, a second spool, ,a handle, and the hard lines to the quick connects is part of the kit.

I took the time to look it up here

https://parts.mahindrausa.com/dealerview/illustration.aspx

Its not under the hydraulics tab but the attachments tab.

The kit appears under Fig 229

And looks to be part number

008017838V51

This would need to be verified by serial number with the dealer. Maybe with the correct fig number they could find it this time.

 

[confederatemule]

This is pretty standard way for the second SCV and has been for 50 plus years. You can see the second/right valve is different color and was added by the dealer or at least after paint of the tractor. The outside plate has bolts that sandwich the valve spools to the inner plate that is allso the 3 point valve. Longer bolts, a second spool, ,a handle, and the hard lines to the quick connects is part of the kit.

I took the time to look it up here

https://parts.mahindrausa.com/dealerview/illustration.aspx

Its not under the hydraulics tab but the attachments tab.

The kit appears under Fig 229

And looks to be part number

008017838V51

This would need to be verified by serial number with the dealer. Maybe with the correct fig number they could find it this time.

To be able to go to this site I apparently have to be a member and sign in with a username and password. Where do I go to join?

Mule

 

[confederatemule]

cbg8670, I tried to duplicate your pictures from my tractor. I also took pictures of the control valve that came with my flail mower. The hoses attached to my only rear remotes go to the grapple. If I connect the control valve on my fender to the one remote will the control valve operate properly with the factory rear remote lever in the center position?

 

[confederatemule]

I do understand that if I can operate the mower control valve from the factory rear remote I will have to install two more remote couplings on the rear of the tractor. One connection for each mower hose.

Mule

 

[LouNY]

I do understand that if I can operate the mower control valve from the factory rear remote I will have to install two more remote couplings on the rear of the tractor. One connection for each mower hose.

Mule

If I am understanding your statement correctly NO.

If you visualize your mower valve as the implement valve in the picture.
If your mower has two hydraulic cylinders with four hoses total, one pair of hoses would connect to A1 and B1 the other pair would connect to A2 and B2. The cylinder that needs the float operation would connect to the valve with the longer spool end cap as that is the one that has a float position.
If you wish to use your rear remote that you are presently using for your grapple, after unplugging your grapple you would have two options.

One way to plumb it would be from one quick connect of your rear remote to the "P" port of the valve, then from the "T" port you can route a non restrictive hose into your tractors reservoir, with the "N" port plugged. To operate you would have to move your existing remote to the position which would apply pressure/flow to the new valve and secure you existing valve in that configuration.

The other way is also used would be the same as the first except the "T" port is connected to your other existing hydraulic remote port. And again the control is secured in the position to provide flow/pressure to the "P" port and the "T" is allowed to return to the tractor through the remote valve, this method will work as long as the tractors remote is operated correctly and the float operation may not work as well because of the restriction created by the quick connect also operating the tractor valve in the wrong direction can put pressure in the tank side of the valve which some valves will not like for long.

 

[USMC43]

To be able to go to this site I apparently have to be a member and sign in with a username and password. Where do I go to join?

Mule

I have no idea how I got into it previously

 

[cbg8670]

Just go to mahindra com and go to parts catalog. Search by model number ie 5145. Then look under accessories you will find second remote kit. That will show you where you will have to hook into.
Thecalve they sent is basic hydraulic valves just have to have supply and return.

 

[cbg8670]

cbg8670, I tried to duplicate your pictures from my tractor. I also took pictures of the control valve that came with my flail mower. The hoses attached to my only rear remotes go to the grapple. If I connect the control valve on my fender to the one remote will the control valve operate properly with the factory rear remote lever in the center position?

Did you get your hydraulics figured out?

 

[confederatemule]

Did you get your hydraulics figured out?

Not yet. I am uncertain where to connect the power beyond port on my auxiliary control valve to the PB port on the tractor. (Did that make sense?) I do not know where the PB port is on the tractor. I think if I was comfortable about that I could move forward.

 

[DaBear3428]

Not yet. I am uncertain where to connect the power beyond port on my auxiliary control valve to the PB port on the tractor. (Did that make sense?) I do not know where the PB port is on the tractor. I think if I was comfortable about that I could move forward.

you can access it on the valve for the FEL compare the photo to your stock hose layout

 

[confederatemule]

you can access it on the valve for the FEL compare the photo to your stock hose layout

In IMG-5287 is the fitting/hose on the left screwed into the power beyond position?

 

[DaBear3428]

In IMG-5287 is the fitting/hose on the left screwed into the power beyond position?

in the stock config, the left fitting is either the return of the power beyond or the supply.

 

[confederatemule]

I sent these two pictures to the dealer service dept. where I bought the tractor.
This is what I was told, in my words.
"Disconnect the fitting to the left or towards rear (has red dot) from tractor hyd. block.
Connect that hose to the "P" (pressure) port on the aux. valve on fender.
Run a hose from "C" (power beyond) port on aux. valve to the port where hose was disconnected on tractor hyd. block.
Run hose from "T" (tank) port on aux. valve to a port into transmission/rear end housing on tractor."
He did not know where the "to tank" line would have to attach to the tractor. I'll find that tomorrow, maybe.
I don't have a problem with where or how to connect the four lines from the mower.

 

[DaBear3428]

I sent these two pictures to the dealer service dept. where I bought the tractor.
This is what I was told, in my words.
"Disconnect the fitting to the left or towards rear (has red dot) from tractor hyd. block.
Connect that hose to the "P" (pressure) port on the aux. valve on fender.
Run a hose from "C" (power beyond) port on aux. valve to the port where hose was disconnected on tractor hyd. block.
Run hose from "T" (tank) port on aux. valve to a port into transmission/rear end housing on tractor."
He did not know where the "to tank" line would have to attach to the tractor. I'll find that tomorrow, maybe.
I don't have a problem with where or how to connect the four lines from the mower.

I read that as the left port on the tractor fel control valve is the pressure in port and they are telling you to install the new valve between the pump and the fel valve. there is also the to tank output and as i understand it that output is not always used.

 

[confederatemule]

I read that as the left port on the tractor fel control valve is the pressure in port and they are telling you to install the new valve between the pump and the fel valve. there is also the to tank output and as i understand it that output is not always used.

I think I am gonna have to use the "t" to tank port on the aux valve to return fluid to the tank. In the case of this tractor system the tank is the transmission rear end housing. I have not even looked at the tractor today, but it is on my mind.